Bluelight Nitrous Article- good read

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    cool, thanks!
     
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    That was quite a read, he should have remembered about moderation ;)
     
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    me anony-mouse/squirrel ... :hat:...im so gonna spam that nbc site... fucking assholes and their drug war propaganda... :D
     
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    That was an awesome article. It's so crazy like he lived in all of these different places making money doing singing gigs and the only stable thing was his belief in Acid, then nitrous, then acid and nitrous. It's kinda exciting like. He was out on his own exploring his mind. I can't get over it, thanks for that, honestly.

    That really sucks about his pain nowadays though.
     
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    it leads to oxygen depo,, there are plenty of once so call safe inhalants ..

    Argon is colorless, odorless, tasteless and nontoxic in both its liquid and gaseous forms. Argon is inert under most conditions and forms no confirmed stable compounds at room temperature...

    when inhaled it does the same thing as Nitrous.. displaces oxygen.

    and nitrous oxide is a gas, not a solvent so you already made yourself look silly..

    many gasses used in the operating room are CFC gasses. related to refrigerants aswell as canned duster is related to sedation gas..

    halothane starts from trichloroethylene, which is reacted with hydrogen fluoride in the presence of antimony trichloride at 130°C to form 2-chloro-1,1,1-trifluoroethane. This is then reacted with bromine at 450°C to produce halothane.. it has to be safe cause its used in the operating room? not!

    The Inhalation of any gasses outside normal breathing air is not good for your health..

    Oxygen is also toxic when used for prolonged periods of time.:hat:
     
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    Excellent read. What a terrible price to pay . . . living in constant neuropathic agony :(
     
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    Except that the high from nitrous does not result from oxygen deprivation (as with "inert" gases), or from the damage of nerve tissue (as with toxic solvents).

    The high from nitrous results from its dissociative and analgesic effects, a genuine psychoactive action, not from toxicity.

    I made myself look "silly" when I said that which is not a toxic solvent, is not a toxic solvent? If you say so.

    I suppose saying that "morphine is an opiate" or "the sky is blue" would also be considered silly.

    Congratulations on discovering Wikipedia, but none of the gases you describe here are nitrous oxide, or are chemically similar to nitrous oxide. You can see that nitrous is not used as an surgical anesthetic because it's not nearly as powerful as those modern chemicals. As I understand it, the danger from modern anesthetic gases also not from toxicity to brain tissue, but because the chemicals are so strong that the body may not recover from the sedation.

    Also, The fact that a chemical may or may not have begun its synthesis as something toxic does not speak at all towards whether or not the final product is, in fact, toxic.

    Remember that next time you're lighting up a "doob".

    Now, it's important to realize that nitrous use can be dangerous and has been fatal all too often. What I'm saying is that the danger does not lie in the inherent toxicity of the gas, as it does with solvents and other noxious chemicals.

    Just search for deaths related to nitrous use, they are invariably the result of the method of inhalation, e.g., bags over the head, masks tied to faces, people locking themselves in cars with open canisters, and various other sorts of Darwin-Award winning stupidity.

    The only other health risks I've heard about came from people using in upwards of 400-500 chargers a day. That takes the kind of work I'm not willing to put into getting high.
     
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    where did you come up with this :rolleyes:...

    Oxygen deprivation is the chief danger of nitrous use.. Sustained inhalation, unaccompanied by adequate oxygen, , may be rapidly followed by severe decerebration (braindeath), heart failure, pulmonary edema, or organic brain damage. Cyanosis, indicated by slow pulse, rise in blood pressure, twitching of the muscles, violent respiration which becomes increasingly shallow and irregular, and delirium, may accompany oxygen shortage. White-blood-cell count may drop and tissues may dry out, resulting in bronchial , irritation...


    do you actually have any experience with other gasses and solvents?
    congrats for discovering wiki?, sorry I didnt know I wasnt allowed to use the www to provide reasoning ..[​IMG] http://www.justsayn2o.com/nitrous.dangers.html here are some more dangers :hat:
     
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    Yes, that is a danger of prolonged oxygen deprivation. Which is only a danger from nitrous oxide if administered improperly.

    No, because they are toxic.

    Have you read the piece you linked me to? Like at all?

    From your link: "Nitrous does not kill brain cells, but lack of oxygen does."

    I did not say that there is no danger of damage or harm. I said that the danger or harm is the result of the method of administration of the gas, not the toxicity of the gas, as your link confirms.

    You'll notice I took all the examples of harmful administration of N2O in my previous post from justsayn2o.com, here.

    I don't understand why you have such a hard on against this stuff. It's like any other psychoactive chemical: it has the potential for harm if used improperly, and anyone who wants to use it should learn what is and isn't safe use. The only reason people feel the need to classify nitrous oxide along with other (solvent based) inhalents is ignorance. Next time you're at your dentist office, ask him why he's using nitrous instead of model glue.

    EDITED TO ADD: Just wanted to say I'm not trying to be an asshole or start some argument, really. I just feel as though nitrous gets a bad rap in the same way that "reefer" gets a bad rap among conservative parenting groups. Just a lack of understanding. Whenever I hear someone saying that "nitrous kills your brain" it rings about as true to me as people complaining about being addicted to pot. I'd rather promote just the facts and allow people to be able to make good decisions.
     
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    I honestly feel so sad for everyone who had to grow up without the internet. Without unlimited access to information about every imaginable topic, sometimes I think about what it must have been like to have to dive into things like sex and drugs head-first with almost no information beforehand, and I wonder how these generations survived...
     
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