Is there life after death?

Strangely enough, I have met some people who probably could say with some authority that there is something like "life after death." But those folks probably won't post on this thread.

There is a hell of a lot more to the universe than you might notice at first glance, and so-called miracles are happening all the time, as I have learned to my surprise. But I have to agree with you that I don't think a God like that exists. And I know that Heaven and Hell exist, cuz I've been to both places on many occasions, and you don't have to die to get to either place.

 

I kinda follow what you're saying tikoo, but you're going to piss off Sweetleaf talking like that.

Actually I just realized that reading your posts is often very much like reading emails from my spirit guide Deanna...

So mayhap your immersion in this problem caused your spiritual energy to hook you into this spirit connection in a way that made it seem like a personal reality for you, eh?

And btw Sweetleaf, dreamtime is a concept from the Australian aborigines - very interesting, you should read about it in Wikipedia.

 

well, yes... i think that is clearer... thank you... i don't believe in reincarnation because it is a comfort to me... i believe in it because it is my experience... i believe that we physically die but that our consciousness (or something akin to that) is what continues through to either another body/existence/dimension or whatever for our growth in whatever area is needed... it may not necessarily "remember" stuff, but my present reincarnation just happens to because i am sensitive in that way maybe... for whatever reason... does that make sense?

 

Go Look up Sir William Crookes

 

yup... interesting guy...

 

The explanation that the Quran gives about the necessity of life after death is what the moral consciousness of man demands. Actually, if there is no life after death, the very belief in God becomes meaningless or even if one believes in God, it would be an unjust and indifferent God, having once created man and now not being concerned with his fate.

 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11981874/The-Scientific-Proof-of-Survival-After-Death

Is also interesting,

This subject also bothers me. I think it's why i smoke so much weed! When i think about it i feel like the earth could end any minute and i get a lot of anxiety...

I use to think if there is nothing after death, well we wont know so don't waste time worring about it.

But it doesn't cut it anymore. As i get older im becoming to realise that religion just doesn't make sense, life isn't what i though it was, and most likely we will just become carbon dust when we die.

no true love
no true meaning
no lessons learnt
no sole

just chemical reactions, its all we are

I have become very hard and mean sprited, i feel this is because i have lost my faith, sprit, meaning... when i was younger 15 16 17 years old i had so much respect and love, kindness for people.

Im just pissed off now! I feel ripped off!

I wist i could get that back.

 

I don't have a clue but strangely enough it doesn't bother me at all. Reincarnation, a drop in the cosmic ocean of souls, what God is. I don't believe there's a God judging us and gives us eternal suffering if we haven't lived good, or even sillier had the wrong beliefs. But sometimes I feel quite happy that other people do think that's true, apparently it keeps a whole bunch of people from the path of harming others
Perhaps there is another kind of existance and the fact that we don't recall much of it is that there's some use for that. I keep my options open but I won't fear the afterlife, whatever it may be. If it sucks I'll probably wish I enjoyed my time here, so.

 

I don't believe that there is any reason to think we keep our conciseness after we die, with all the death on planet Earth not a single shred of testable evidence has ever come forth hinting at conciseness after death.

In my opinion it is simply oblivion that awaits us.

 

no evidence except for the thousands (probably even millions) of reported experiences from other people... i remember being at my own funeral and seeing my children from another lifetime crying at my graveside... it wasn't a dream, it hasn't happened in this lifetime and it wasn't my imagination.... it is a memory... and not the only one... you believe what you want and others will believe what they do... i can completely understand how it would seem very unlikely had i not experienced these things for myself, but i have and that is why i don't need scientific evidence...

 

I kind of hope so

 

well if you think of it this way...
everything you experience in life is a cycle. The seasons, The moon, Day and night, good and the bad times.
Would't you think that Life and Death were a cycle as well. Death is only another beginning. Whether I am sure about what exactly it is that comes afterwards, who knows.

I had a dream once that someone told me that i was going to die. If a got to stressed out i would just keel over. In the dream I couldn't help but be scared that i really didn't know what would happen once I finally passed away.We walk along everyday not thinking that the next step could be your last and that the next breath could be all we breathe. Then i began to think about it,in the dream, and i thought about what it would be like in those last moments.
My body goes numb, I feel good, i am at peace, there is no worry about what it coming next and there is no fear.

"Enjoy every moment like it is your last" im sure you have heard this before but always taken it lightly. I now connect a FEELING with this phrase, a feeling in the heart, a burning feeling. So many things happen in you life that change you, and its amazing that it happens in your dreams too.

So thats my experience with death. And you know what, i am no longer afraid.

 

well what do you think of quantum physics?

have you seen what the bleep do we know?
its interesting to believe that particles at the sub-atomic level change their behavior just by being observed. nothing is certain except our view of our own realities.

Interesting.

 

What do you mean when you say it is a memory and not a dream or your imagination?

How is it that you experienced these things for yourself if it is not the work of your imagination as you claim it is not, furthermore how is someone simply reporting an event to someone considered as evidence?

Why would you not want or need scientific evidence in support of your claim, if it is true would that not help to solidify your claim?

What would be more likely, that you oversaw your own funeral in some kind of trance that allowed you to see into the future, or that you just had a vivid hallucination?

 

well when i dreamed i was going to die... i could FEEL that feeling but i have never experienced it before in my life, it could be possible that have felt that feeling in another lifetime and i was dreaming a recall of a past experience, a past death.

but whose to say that my body knows what the feeling is even if its sparked in a dream situation: my imagination triggered the feeling.

thats a hard debate man...

tht

 

dance , give light

are you the word that you write ,
the light that you make .. ?
yes , may you be true

i listen for you

 

because i know the difference between imagination, memory, visions (both drug induced and natural) and dreams... i have experienced all of them and they are all very different... i never presumed that it would be evidence for others, but for myself only. i can only share my experience... i can completely understand that it must be difficult for others to take these experiences as fact without scientific evidence, and i would not expect them to.

and further, regarding science... there are many things that science will never be able to prove or disprove, as is already happening in respect to aspects of quantum theory etc

 

If it were not for science we would not have quantum theory, you claimed that you had a vision of your funeral and because of this you consider it proof to yourself of life after death, It would seem that this would not be proof even if it is true that there is life after death more over that it would be proof of seeing into the future.

How is watching your own funeral in trance or whatever while you are still alive proof of an afterlife, even just to yourself?

 

and science has a part to play for sure... i respect science, but it is not the be all and end all of everything that i know...

that memory of my funeral was not me in this life time... my husband, also at the graveside, holding hands with my children, is not a man that i know... in this life time i am currently 47 years old... this was a very young man and obviously very affluent... they were very young children (2 and 4 approx)... all my children, in my present lifetime, are adults and the man i am marrying next year is the same age as myself... so it is very unlikely, damn near impossible infact, that i was having a premonition about something from my future in this lifetime... also, this is not the only memory i have had of previous lives... i am thinking in french in one of them, and the dress i am wearing is from the past... in another, it was the 1950s... when i was a child, i used to speak of my other family "before you lot" is what my mother told me... and my doll was called david.... when my mother said that this was a strange name for a girl doll, i told her that i was pretending that he was my son from my other family, before this one... children speak of these things... all my children spoke of memories from before too...

 

Where, and what was your "current" body doing when you originally had this vision?