The Unitarian Church

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by ChiefCowpie, Nov 13, 2004.

  1. gnrm23

    gnrm23 Senior Member

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    they should bring their scissors so they can cut out the parts of the bible that they don't agree with, mmmmay?









    i dunno, i thought it was hilarious...



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  2. arlia

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    maybe they shud jsut try to understand the bits they dont agree with
     
  3. gnrm23

    gnrm23 Senior Member

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    ya, maybe they shud jsut try...
     
  4. arlia

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    it wudnt hurt to try,some things u wont understand unless u give it a chance
     
  5. duckandmiss

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    this is ridiculous.
     
  6. ChiefCowpie

    ChiefCowpie hugs and bugs

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    no, i think the unitarians should keep the scissors and cut out the parts that are just silly
     
  7. arlia

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    who are they to judge the words of god?
    and wat use will cutting up the bibel do?
    none?
    coz god is still there,and his word still lives on
     
  8. atropine

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    maybe you should look into the history of your bible

    the old testament.. is BASICALLY the torah thats been cut up by scissors..
    the new testament.. was translated in the late1500s/early1600s (i think) by king james I of england (or james VI of scotland) and was changed severely to benefit hes views..

    so what denomination are you? do you try to understand the differences of all the denominations of christianity? theres only 200+ of them.. formed from people not agreeing with certain parts of the bible or having a different viewpoint.

    do you understand satanism? judaism? how about islam? why dont you just try em out for a bit, cuz u wont understand them unless you give it a chance..



    arent unitarians kinda agnostic anyway.. like follow christian teachings.. just without a belief in god.. im not too sure on it.. but if so, then why would they follow the bible word for word. after all its wouldnt be gods word to them.
     
  9. arlia

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    im non denominational,i dont believe gods intention was for his children to believe differant things......i believe the bible ot be revelant and true.some of the stories however are not real,but are parables,stories that jesus used as examples to teach ppl.

    judaism.....christinaity ogt its roots from that.....the old testement,is back oin the day of that faith,but wen jesus came it was a start of a new covenant with ogd and parts of the old faith where not neede anymore,because the ppl were no longer punished for theyre sins,because christ was puonished in theyre place for all mankind.......some christinas shouldnt stop and the englosh background of the church,because that shallow,in the days of king david they went absolutley crazy with dance and celebration to god,that hsud b mirrored in2 our churches in our generaton.

    and yes once i gave wsatan a try,and i realised his plans for me was to kill steal and destroy,and that gods was to love,prosper and give me grave......i knew wat made me hapier
     
  10. atropine

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    have you ever looked into what actual satanism is?
    and yeah i believe many many more people have been killed, many more things destroyed in the name of god, rather than satan. though i guess being nondenominational is better, although slightly... im not sure what the word im looking for is... think of how many christians were slain by other christians due to their denominations.. quite unbelievable really..
     
  11. arlia

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    thats why i dont believe in denominations i believe in god!
    gods intentions were not for his children to b fighting......iv seen anough about satanism to relise that it does not bring happiness in2 ones life,frends that i ahv known were always depressed,and if theyre the prime exaple of satanist i dont really wanan go there.
    it wud b the same if i were satanist,and i saw a depresssed mean christian who picked on ppl or watever,i wudnt wanan get involved in that wud i?

    religion causes war,and i h8 it.
    dont follow religion follow god
     
  12. atropine

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    well from what youve said i could practically ensure you that you or your friends know nothing about true satanism. the stereotypical black death chaos rawwr satanism is a crock, used by those who think theyre hard enough (well thats a large stereotype).. it has nothing to do with satanism, period. i knew a couple who were greatly into true satanism and they were very very happy people. they also had christian friends, as they were lucky enough to find others who actually knew what their believes were about and werent closedminded to other beliefs. ive known (quite well) about a dozen people who labelled themselves satanist. there were the two who actually went into the religion, and the rest, a group at school (my mate went out with one of them)... they were wannabe whitesupremist neonazis.. listened to the likes of cannibal corpse (nothing against the band, im a metaler myself.. just pushing the stereotype).. wore all black (i also do that most of the time) wore pentagrams etc.etc. nothing wrong with any of that.. its just they thought they were cool being "satanist".. people like that are fucken stupid.. they were antichrist, antiblack, antijew antieverything, even antime (who at times have been slightly racist and slightly antichristian) people like that ruin the general image of a satanist, as it obviously has for you

    satanism doesnt bring happiness into ones life, just as much as god does. god brings much happiness to peoples lives, just as satanism, you get it? i have many many happy times without any form of god, and when i think about it, the one time i accepted god into my life, i was rarely ever happy.
     
  13. arlia

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    ahhhhh yes the weqar all black hate life grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!
    yeah
    *rolls eyes*
    i knw too many of them.
    yeah its true that u can have happytimes witohut god,but life is much beter with him.
    i tihnk maybe because u gto this christian stuff beated in2 ure head from ure school u never really got the chance to dicover for ureself wat god was about.christina schools and such(like the one i have been to)
    really made me unhappy and it was during that time that i totaly sawyed away from the bleliefs i once had,btu i returned and i understand things better now!

    i too ahve close friends of different religions,sop plese dont tihnk that im bein narrow minded,i may not agree with theyre beliefs but i am quite happy to let them believe wat they believe if they ahv happiness in it.i hope that u find something that truley satisfies u as much as my god has done for me
     
  14. atropine

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    well its 3am so i might head off, but last thing

    life is better for you with god, but not for everyone else
     
  15. arlia

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    okies u take care now!
    and no its not jsut me,there are hundreds
    thousands,millions of ppl that hav the same thing that i do,so to say that fro everyone else is does not bring happiness wud not b an acurate statement to say.
    u amy not see it now,but i knwo that ure life wud ahv satifaction if u ahd wat i had,im not tryin to force u in2 my faith,am just sayin that i know that it can happen,its just not the time for u at the moment,but god will still w8,weather u ever chose him again or not,god hasnt given up on u
     
  16. atropine

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    by everyone else, i meant that everyone else doesnt feel the way you do. many do, yes, but many many do not.

    i have god in myself, not an extrabeing. a belief or connection with god could lead me to hating which i dont hold at this moment, and many other things. looking at one of my best friends (a life christian, and quite a strong believer) his life isnt too different than mine. his emotions, the way he feels. he has just as much depression as i do. i have just as much satisfaction. having god at his side hasnt improved his life. and it wouldnt for me.
     
  17. arlia

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    god will be doing things in his life,depression doesnt jsut go away like that,i battled with it for a few years being a christian,it was baggage from my old life,but because i allowed god to help me,and i trusted in him,i hav overcome depression and im free from it
     
  18. atropine

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    hes been one with god for as long as he can remember, and it hasnt benefited his life one bit compared to mine, and mine hasnt been that great. to say god will be doing things in his life is a comment based completely on faith, and can never be backed, so i never really take it to any extent
     
  19. arlia

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    it will only happen if he allows it!
    maybe he is only christian because of his up bringing,iv knwon tonnes of ppl liek that,they believe in it,but havnt actualyl excepted christ............

    and yes,even with god there are problems,but god puts everything neede in a peron to overcome theyre situations
     
  20. gnrm23

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    and the way we can tell if they hav actualyl excepted christ...
    i mean, have actually accepted christ...

    is if they start speaking in tongues, right?
     
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