Methylone while on probation?

I have methylone potentially available to me (also butylone, mephedrone and similar shit). I have read experience reports and it seems to be something I would definitely be interested in but heres what i need to know....would this shit possibly show up on a probation piss test? The company they use to test uses EMIT first and if it fails that they verify with GC/MS or LC/MS.

It seems that it might possibly trigger a positive on the initial emit due to it's similar structure to MDMA and possibly (meth)amphetamine. The crucial thing though is whether it would pop positive on GC/MS? I don't know how it is metabolized in the body and looking at the structure, if that oxygen atom making up the keto group came off somehow during metabolism then it would have metabolites that would show up.

And in the synthesis of it do any of the intermediate step involve MDMA because that would result in small amounts of unreacted MDMA in the product.

I hope somebody has some experience either using methylone and then taking a piss test, or give me scientific reasons why it would or wouldn't get me fucked over.

 

Well your best option is to find out from first hand experience. Try to get your hands on one of the tests or maybe a similar type. My guess is that it will only stay in your system for about 3 days which should give you enough time to test it out, if not grab a friend to take the test. Anyways sorry for lack of facts, hope you find what your looking for.

 

GS usually compares the substances against known substances of the same molecular weight per molecule. But since it tests for metabolites, and they contain the same basic structure, I would have to say it is more than likely it would pop a positive test. I think that mdma is only in the system about 3 days though, so the RC would prolly be something similar. Just my reasoning.

 

there is a report over at blue light or drugsforum about a test they did in rats and the metabolite produced was different than mdma

 

I think I might see if I can take care of the problem and contact Norchem and ask them directly. They seem to be a reputable company and probably could care less what I do as long as they get paid.

 

Rat's have one of the largest livers for their size, so the metabolites of a rat would be much more processed. Rat's can drink alot of alcohol... lol.

 

Its not illegal... When they do the confirmation test (assuming it caused a false positive) they would find no scheduled chems.

You are 100% fine! I have done meph before a piss test. They don't even look for that shit mang, they have to find the actual scheduled substance in their Gas Chromatography/ Mass Spectrometry confirmation test.

 

Tryptamines don't show up in a UA if there are any that are available to you.

They have to do a special lab test to find it usually, I'm not saying it cannot be found at all.

Or just have a friend who can pee for you that doesn't do drugs, that's what I do..

 

Ok, the testing company replied and basically said that due to its structuraly similarity it is likely it could cause a positive screening result for amphetamines and/or MDMA. As for the confirmation test they are unsure because they haven't done any research on the compound.

My guess is that the confirmation would be negative, unless somehow it metabolized into chemicals that would show up.

EDIT: I can't believe I asked this to a drug testing company, especially from my xcandykidx gmail address.

 

^^ lol

 

Hopefully they don't look into it...

 

do you think they would really care to spend lots of time looking into someone who might possibly be doing something which is not scheduled. they're not the cops you know, im sure they care more about getting paid for the samples they test, im sure it makes no difference to them whether its negative or positive, they just report the results.

 

One more metabolite they could potentially add to the test. I'm just saying its best not to risk spilling the beans to the company that manufactures a large number of drug tests, which apparently are used in our legal system.
In all fairness the beans were spilled long ago I suppose. In fact, I sincerely doubt that not one branch of govt. knows of all these fantabulous-semi-legal-but-not-really chemicals.

 

Now you guys got me all trippin out paranoid about this shit. I think "they" probably already know that theres methylone and other synthetic chems out there and if they wanted to be able to test for it they would, I just hope they don't start wanting to test for it since i said that. Damn, did I fuck up?

 

Doubt you've caused anything to happen, but it's best to assume the worst in my opinion.

 

OMFG!

Do you guys REALIZE how big of a problem meph is right now??? NONE! NO ONE I have met knows about ANY RCs... 1. They will have to schedule it to get u busted. 2. When they do the confirmation test, they have to test for the ACTUAL drug! The prescreen will detect the metabolites and the GC/MS will be to find the real drug itself in super small concentrations. 3. No one gives a shit about some punk kid getting a chemist in ireland to make a obscure chem... They will not spend all that money just to make sure you are not doing it........ They are there for profit man, the hundreds of thousands of dollars it would take to make that test would not generate sales for shit right now.

Chill mang... This is what helps me when I start to wig over something like this, "Would you care this much over an actual ILLEGAL chem like acid?"

 

i think that helps. my probation doesn't even test for lsd. this company *does* have the ability to test for it but my probation for some reason does not order that test.

 

worst case:

false positive for mdma...which is FUCKING UNLIKELY.

 

you dont think that the peopel that sent me the jwh could have put a small amount of thc in it do you?