o- desmethyl tramadol

Probably. I think most people are impressed with opiates; they just always want/need more.

 

Being discontinued... Does this mean it's not that good?

Strange.

 

I don't know. Probably a little more dangerous than their other drugs. None of their other drugs can cause physical addiction :/

And no one on HFs tried this huh?

 

Yep, I know someone who tried it. Said it was pretty similar to kratom actually. The first couple of hours gave an energized opiate feeling where he felt like organizing his closet, then there was a relaxation and slight nodding off that led to a dreaming state that wasn't quite sleeping. Woke up the next morning having had vivid dreams, and feeling pretty refreshed.

My friend has no opiate tolerance, and tried little bits of the powder taken under his tongue over a period of a couple of hours. He didn't have access to his scale so these little bits were very small to make sure nothing bad would happen.

Overall a positive experience that he will be experimenting with again!

 

I just saw that on a vendors product list. Does it have the seizure risk of regular tramadol?

 

From what I've read, it does not have the same seizure risk as tramadol - much less in fact.

Interesting if you see it on a vendor's site now. The one I knew about has removed it recently. I was curious if it would show up elsewhere!

 

Ordered some more 2c-e and decided to throw in 500mg of this stuff just to check it out. Will be receiving in about a week. Will post back with results. I have zero opiate tolerance.

 

It is quite nice if you have zero tolerance, which is to be expected. Not highly euphoric, but very relaxing.

 

Just snorted 30mg o- desmethyl tramadol. This morning about 12 hours ago I took 25mg valium and 30mg hydrocodon extracted so not sure if that will have any effect. My opiate tolerance is zero, this is only like the 4 time i've taken opiates ever.

 

And was there any effect?

 

Yeah! How was it man! Shit!!! Dying to know...

 

I'm curious as well...

 

well either his internet connection ran out or...

 

wtf... Thread fucking closed! This old and still to sign of a good TR???

 

There's plenty of feedback around.. it's an opiate, it's not going to generate a full "trip report". Take dose, feel nice. If you really want I'll tell what I've figured out from my experience:

-beginner's dose 30mg
-average 50mg
-high 100mg
(little to no tolerance, best to wait at least three days between doses)
Very relaxing, pleasant, euphoria only present when lying down with eyes closed. Otherwise it's a mildly pleasant dizzyness, but lying down it can get pretty strong and in no way confusing or mentally dulling. I have no other opiate experience to compare strength to. Very conducive to "zoning out", going in and out of a half-dream state for around 5-6 hours. Very easy to willingly leave that state, though - just sit up. Mood-wise, it made me more social and slightly less inhibited (I normally have some social anxiety issues, however - not normally one to speak much at all), some increase in optimism. Static-y music is appealing to listen to. Residual effects present up to 12 hours after dosing - sounds seem extra loud, itchiness, reduced thirst and hunger. Little to no hangover unless I re-dosed; "hangover" effects seem to be due to some dehydration, easily fixed by drinking water (if you remember to).
All my doses were oral, sublingual seems to work too but the taste is very plasticy. Diet Pepsi covers up the taste best, Diet coke seemed to make it worse. Dissolves very well in hot or cold liquid (mmm hot cocoa).

 

Thanks man! That is what I was looking for. Now this thread doesn't suck so much ass.

 

Haha sorry guys i've been having too much fun I forgot to write back.
Ok so when I snorted the 30mg it took about 10 minutes to hit and I only felt a small buzz not really much.
A few days later me and my roomate ate 100mg and it was pretty good. Like a pretty strong body high, almost a feeling like GHB for like 4 or 5 hours. Super relaxed and we played video games pretty much the whole time cause we didn't feel like moving at all. I wouldn't say it was euphoric but it felt good. I did notice that it made me itch a little bit at random. At the very end, like 5 hours after we took it we both got nauseous and puked.
My friend just took it again today like 4-5 hours ago and he said it was pretty kick ass like the first time we did it, but he just got done throwing up again. Like I said my tolerance is zero, so it feels good to me.

 

Is there explanation why is there nausea?

 

http://opioids.com/jh/index.html

 

So yesterday after I typed the message and talking to my friend some more I decide to take 100mg again. It was bad ass. We just sat and listened to music for like 5 hours and felt really good and relaxed. I didn't even get nauseous this time.