Its been nearly 1 full year that i've been eating a vegan diet.. I feel better than ever, have more energy than ever, and feel better about food in general. I think more vegetarian/vegan success stories should be shared. I was raised on meat & potatoes, and milk & cheese. I believe humanity is slowly adapting towards these diets & with all the diet related health problems its definetly a good thing... So go ahead it feels good, share your story..
Well, even from the perspective of an Omnivorus type like myself,,, Eating natural is so much better. I mean I love my Animal byproducts but all the while I know how fucked up the industry of Beef and so forth is, everything is loaded up on artificial coloring, growth hormones and antibiotics. This crap is no good for us.
I make special trips out to local 'organic' farms to purchase my meat (and if you are not a goof you could possibly get milk) and it is a lot of extra work. I think that saying that meat is polluted and bad for you is terribly small minded. To just not bother with eating meat becasue you dont want to put in the extra effort to obtain quality meat is pretty slack and you're going to be the one paying for it depriving yourself of its precious nutrients.
Neone you say that you only eat meat, but the truth is that there are more nutrients in fruits and veggies and whole grains. meat is amazing source of protien and iron, but the truth is you need as wide of variety of foods to get the widest variety of nutrients. I would love to see how you can legitimately argue with this logic.
I've been vegetarian for about 5 years now. Actually, I take that back, I slipped and strayed from my veggie diet for almost one year. Never the less, I have returned to the healthy lifestyle that I knew and loved and am feelin' great about it. I live off of brown rice, veggies (of course), milk, fruit, cheese and my favorite nut, almonds! I feel better then ever and have lost a healthy amount of weight. And no, I don't get tired of these foods. haha Random helpful fact: "Did you know that 10 almonds supply all the protein you need for a day?" I thought that was cool.
Neone I must say that meat is not as nutritious as its made out to be.. Sure if you don't have a well balanced vegan/vegetarian diet you'd probably be better off eating a meat based diet, but there is nothing more healthy than a vegan/vegetarian lifestyle done properly.. I don't eat meat for the moral and physical and environmental reasons. To say that its small minded to say meat is unhealthy is just untrue.. I felt like crap all the time before I switched my diet.. I've heard people argue that meat has been eatin all throughout human history so why change... I say people have always been murdering and raping each other too, that doesn't mean its something we should continue.. I have a feeling if everyone had to kill the animals themselves before they ate it alot less people would eat alot less meat. I have no problem with hunting for food... I do have a problem with buying it from a supermarket & having nothing to do with the ugly process from which it got there..
Let me rephrase then, *COOKED* meat is unhealthy, I only eat my meat raw.. in fact my diet is more raw animal fat/organ based than meat. My wife and I were the most uber vegetarians you had ever seen, we spent over 5hrs a day preparing food. My wife was very sick and we spent A LOT of time trying to figure out diet. After 6 years of research and personal trial nothing was helping, no ammount of QUALITY fruits or veggies, no ammount of magic pills helped, nothing would digest. You have to be very desperate before you start eating raw meat. The recovery so far has been Amazing, im talking she noticed the difference within days.. Food actually digested and she started feeling better. I put on 15lbs of muscle by doing LESS physical excercise than before. Keto-Adaption is amazing, You have unlimited energy and feel awesome all the time. The point that im always stressing Dacre is that I have been a vegan, I have been a veggie and I have been an omnivore and a carnivore. A carnivorous diet is MILES above any other diet we have tried. In fact it saved my wifes life and greatly improved the quality of mine (even though i had 'nothing wrong', it wasnt untill small things disapeared that i even knew i had a problem there) We will treat ourselves on the weekend to something like mabye a grapefruit or lemon but nothing crazy and at the start of the diet kicking sugar we did approximately 4 months eating ONLY MEAT. i will repeat, the ONLY thing that we consumed was meat. I made a quinoa meal with veggies that we grew from our own organic veggie garden grown in my nutritient dense rabbits shit, these were some top-quality ingredients, fresh picked. We made our meal and ate it.. Tasted great, made us feel like SHIT, we felt full, bloated, constipated, that shit felt like it didnt digest for 12hrs man.. I can eat 2lb of raw meat and go running 15mins later... I would not eat cooked meat, THAT is poison. Funny thing is that you have to cook some of your foods to make them NOT poison... haha, you think a fucking potato is food? My wife and I are very outdoors people, We live 9months in a tent; only drink water from running local streams/waterfalls and wild forage. If you think that people are supposed to roam around grazing on wild edibles, then you must think that living in the REAL wilderness is like going to the supermarket.. Have you ever tried eating wild carrots? Have you ever tried eating raw grains? When we were veggies heading out into the woods I always knew in the back of my mind 'wtf, this shit dont work, there is NO WAY you can forage enough food every day for yourself. On the other hand 1 moose would last my whole family almost a month... A tribe I was hunting with mabye a week. (but i dont have a tribe) I do not doubt that people CAN eat plants.. I just believe they are medicinal, and if you're eating your medicine every day when you dont need it you're abusing it and when the time comes that you actually need it, its not going to do anything for you. (or a survival trait, but still a sub-optimal foodsource) PS: Your food should not rot your teeth or make your mouth feel like shit, or give you gas (as in i do not fart or burp anymore, every day my teeth feel like I have just had them polished at the dentist, even if i dont bother brushing) My real point i guess is that you guys are telling me all about a lifestyle that i have been living for over a year now, that you have never experienced. I have dropped thousands of dollars on all kinds of plant based food/medicines and they are bullshit. You are made of meat, you eat the meat to help your own. My dog had a heart problem, I fed her heart for a good 6 months.. no more heart problem, my vet is WTF IMPOSSIBLE! PPS: the keto-adaption period is pretty brutal, but so worth it.
Hmm wow you have a very interesting perspective. It almost gets to the point where i have had a hard time even believing your diet that you claim to have. First of all, I can't even to begin to imagine getting myself to eat raw meat. I have always been completely disgusted even touching it. Mabey I will do some more research on it, and try it out sometime. I will never stop eating cooked meat though that is just always delicious. Nice big steak, Big juicy bacon cheeseburger, bacon, Turkey, etc. Don't you like that stuff at all? Don't other people get weirded out when you eat with them? What about the bacteria in meat that the human stomach does not tolerate do you get sick? Did you cook the veggies that you ate? Cooking veggies not only gets rid of nutrients but also your body reacts to cooked veggies as toxins. (never had to worry about this i don't even like anything about cooked veggies). Im never going to stop eating fruits and veggies, but i always keep an open mind about new things
Raw meat is great, the problem as neone points out is in the source of it. I dont agree on my statement being small minded as it was a broad brush meant for the general industry on the whole, not the 5% of our Market that cares for the Animals and treats them more like living things than a simple commodity. Free range, "Killed with kindness" etc to avoid the "terror hormones" that are in all the beef you buy off the shelf at wal-mart and such is great stuff. I had originally outlined that when I was first posting but due to the nature of the forum section this thread is in I felt it best to not get too graphic in my descriptions so I omitted that qualifier. As far as eating raw goes, it is much easier on the digestive system, much lower in carcinogens and just plain tastier (Just expressing my opinion, not trying to raise anyones hairs) but again as in 95% of the Livestock industry, handling methods and unsterile processing conditions make this a highly unsafe practice when one shops the local market. On the other hand, buying half a cow and cutting it yourself where you know you've cleaned down everything properly and adhere to safe handling methods reduces the risk a thousand fold.
I'd suggest some thinly sliced roast, cut against the grain. Maranade in orange juice. (Citrus will help kill of any possible bacteria as well if you're really concerned.) Bacteria can be easily handled by simply not buying it off the shelf at wal-mart or by utilizing some of the many wonderful natural antibiotics like oil of oregano to help cut down the population. But for the most part, Bacteria only inhabits the outer layers of cut meat or along the animals digestive tract which can serve to contaminate the rest if not cut & cleaned properly.(Raw hamburger is a very risky thing to chow on, unless of course you grind your own.) And I fully welcome any suggested editing of this post as I'm sure it might disturb some folks who frequent this category. :cheers2:
well the truth is that its bullshit. I usually buy a large roast at a time and plop it down on my bench, ill slice pieces off for dinner and since its not as enjoyable eating cold from the fridge meat, compared to room temp meat (and I live without refrigeration most of the year) I just leave it sit on the bench. By day 5 its usually starting to get a scuff of mold on the outside and smells 'rotten' but your tastes change and you learn to really appreciate the taste.. I guess kind of like how people really savor the tastes of wines and cheese which are just different fermented products. I think the gist of how its bad is when you cook meat, it changes the protiens and when bacteria feed off of the altered thinggys they make bad madoodles and you will shit your pants. So i am not afraid of bacteria or rotten (raw)meat (bacteria)
I've heard the argument for all meat diets too & it just doesnt sound pleasant to me.. Everyone is different & therefore everyone has slightly different dietary needs. I know that veggie diets may not be the answer for everyone, but i believe its something people should consider trying. The fact that most people that eat meat don't fully understand the process of producing meat cheaply or exactly what it is that they're even eating scares me the most.. Its like an old dog that won't eat anything except the cheapest crap dogfood simply because thats what he's used to, people need to open their eyes and give a shit what they eat.
from a health perspective i don't think there is anything wrong with eating raw meat, carefully obtained and handled we are animals from a moral perspective? we are human animals i'll stick to my grains, legumes, fruits and veggies . . .
You can eat raw meat, even 'well aged' raw meat... It WILL fuck your body up for the first bit while it gets used to it, especially if you are coming off a conventional diet. Just like any radical change in your diet will. Me, I'll stick to my cooked meat, although my veggies and milk can be raw... lol
