You also had intelligence that Iraq had WMD. Would this be from the same source? Where does it all stop? How did it all get so bad? Why, coming from a country who supplies the Khmer Rouge with weapons in Cambodia, don't you point that finger at yourselves .
lets just hope that this time the public has learnt it's lesson about the lies we were fed last time surrounding iraqs piles of WMDs and............ i dont know how to finish that sentance. it would be nice to say that we'll all stand up and protest, but thats exactly what we did last time and it had no effect whatsoever. they still charged in and did exactly what they wanted. this cannot be good. peace and love stardust xxx
eople wont learn, it'd be nice if they did, but the majority of people believe the lies that their fed them... "Britain and us are doing us a favour, their protecting us from evil arabs who all have explosives strapped to them, because in todays climate you really cant know whos a terrorist..." Its a sad sad situation to be in, it really is
its also quite scary. eventually there has to be a backlash. i can not see the arab world laying down and taking this treatment forever. surely at one point someone has to stand up and say "we must take a stand against the USA and UK trying to take over our countries" and when that happens we will be fucked. peace and love stardust xxx
well...he's resigning after this year...you can't blame him for trying to get in a couple of wars before he leaves...boost his pension up a bit...
They've got a big problem over there in the states. Ethnocentricity. Yank walks in gapingly chewing gum and shouts: "They do things differently over there? They must be WRONG! 'cos its not the way WE do it!" bleh (yes, i've gone and stereotyped a HUGE nation, i know )
I don't think there will be a war against Iran, at least not in the near future. With most of its military resources tied up in Iraq, I don't think the US can afford it, so they will be forced into diplomacy. But if there is ever likely to be a war in Iran, then I'll be back on the streets with everyone else, shouting for some sanity in this world....
Did fuck all good stopping the last war tho, i was there like everyone else, im just sceptical that protests work anymore...something else is need, something *shock dare i say it* more radical?
evry little helps .. the feeling is known and it does affect the way the goverment handle things .. the protesting this time may avert the next one .. don't be so negative. You only belittle the people who did stand up and protest. and if it needs something more radical then get up and do it.
what affect exactly did the last protests have? if i remember correctly, myself and several hundreds of thousand other people marched through london on several occasions voiceing loudly our objection to the invasion of iraq. did any one take a tiny bit of notice? how can you say our protests were listened too when they had no effect on events what so ever. i agree with spyder on this one. peace and love stardust xxx
Of course we do, that goes without saying. But then I never believed we were going to stop the war anyway. I protested simply because I thought that the war was wrong, and that we needed to speak out against it....
That's one great burden which all imperalistc powers or military superpowers have to bear: the more land they want to control/invade, the bigger the bill is going to get. Empires like the Roman Empire and British Empire collapsed mainly because it just got to expensive to keep their grips on all that territory, and I'm confident it will be the same for the Bush administration's imperialistic power. The US defence budget is running into hundreds of billions of dollars as we speak. Having said that though I don't think I could say that Bush and co. won't invade Iran or another nation soon for sure though (after all, it is Bush), but of course doing so would give the economy another real battering.
Most of the people i know say "bomb the lot of them" ... "nuke 'em" .. and other such idiotic rubbish. Also i bet their are people that say "kill all the infidels" "bomb the lot of them" "nuke them" and all that idiotic rubbish. Your right it is a sad sad situation to be in, it realy is.
I suspect what we are seeing is a slow build-up of pressure which may be manipulated into some kind of "crisis" requiring "urgent action". But this will be a long-term thing. Remember it took almost a year of subtle propaganda for the Iraq "crisis" to be invented in the public mind. I imagine the administration hopes that Iraq will be defeated, a puppet regime installed and the country pacified within a year or two ... it will then be a convenient staging post for any possible future invasion of Iran. Remember a permanent state of war is in the economic and strategic interests of the neocons. Given that the nebulous "al-Qaeda" is either defeated, dissipated or non-existent, they need to create a succession of new enemies to conquer.
And Colin Powell was about the most diplomatic out of the lot of Bush's party. Yet he started a war... Says alot about Bush's party
