Do you like Obama

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  1. newcarscent7

    newcarscent7 Member

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  2. alice_d_millionaire

    alice_d_millionaire Just Do It©

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    since i've never met him, kinda hard to say. however, i do think he suffers from many more attacks of a personal nature, committed by xenophobic homophobic wingnuts than any person deserves. and when they are called out on this, they launch a verbally abusive and wildly immature verbal assault on whoever let them know this. quite sad.
     
  3. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    No, I don't like him.
    I don't dislike him either though.

    I think he's a perfectly plain President. Which is far better than a Bush, but not nearly enough right now.
    He does seem likeable as a person though...
     
  4. jamaican_youth

    jamaican_youth Senior Member

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    I like him a lot, he's amazing, I wish I had more of his characteristics.
     
  5. Lostthoughts

    Lostthoughts Thostloughts

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    There were two extreems durring the election... That he would change everything and make it better. (I didn't believe that... He has no experience in politics, he's just a good speaker)

    the second was that he was an evil socialist and America would end if he was elected (it sounds retarded but i know a lot of people who actuly believed it)

    but guess what? He's just a normal presedent. Nothing special. He won't make everything better, he won't fuck everything up. He's doing fine, and any left wing idiot or conservitive Nazi that says otherwise is just blinded by what they want him to be.
     
  6. Individual

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    Change!, better or worse depends on if you are on the receiving or the paying end of the change.
     
  7. danxdan

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    you can't make everyone in the us happy, so some will like him and some won't.

    he's not making that many waves in office, which can be good or bad.
     
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  9. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    No no no no no. I was pretty neutral at first - saying he's the most boring President since Carter - but there are just too many things that have bothered me. This Healthcare reform bullshit was rushed, all plans I've read sucked, and it should not be his main issue during a hurt economic time.
    Why would he give his general 10,000 less troops than he asked for?
    Peace Prize? Are you kidding me?
    But the main thing is - besides that he's done shit but show up on TV.
     
  10. Cold Brains

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    He's a little bit above average so far.
     
  11. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    i entered dislike only cuz it doesn't seem like he is being centered enough and the bills just keep comin and comin. love how hes taking the troops out though
     
  12. Grim

    Grim Wandering Wonderer

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    Like most other high-level politicians, he's part of the elite handful who own all the wealth and power on this planet. He is not interested in helping the people, he is not interested in peace, and he certainly has no compassion for any problems you or I may ever encounter. An honest expression and charming smile have sadly poisoned a lot of young minds; but he's as much a monster as any other.
     
  13. Individual

    Individual Senior Member

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    The real question should be "do you like Obama's agenda?" But then again, just who is responsible for the agenda he puts forth? That might also be a good question to ask.
     
  14. Mangled All Day

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    Stimulus-Healthcare plan. Im a conservative-libertarian. I just believe my country could be ran a diffrent better way.
     
  15. yellowcab

    yellowcab Fresh baked

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    I really must wait until around fall/winter of this year to start to really form an opinion on him. He certainly is doing a better job than shrub, but thats not saying much at all. Doing a better job than a retarded person is not something to build a presidency on. But I think he's doing a better job than the other choice given us.
     
  16. heiadn27

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    Going with the post above...He IS doing a much better job that what the other choice would have been able to do. Do I like Obama? Yes, of course I do. As a person? Yes. His policies and stance on issues? Yes, very much so. Do I like Washington? No. And Grim's post above is way off and is based purely upon his personal opinion. I agree the wealthy tend to ignore others...but Obama certainly doesn't fall in the ignorant dept as much as say Limbaugh does.

    For any right-winger who says Healthcare was rushed through (when, ok it was trying to be rushed through, but didn't happen), isn't it STILL in congress being worked out and is basically at a stand-still, needing SOME Republican support? So here we are roughly 7 months after they initially wanted a healthcare bill, and the debate still goes on. Sounds like a decent amount of time for the partisan side to listen and offer ideas. Any right-winger who says things are going on behind closed doors and are excluding the GOP...what hypocrites. I'm sorry but if the GOP held 60 Senate votes, wouldn't you be tryin your damnedest to get your legislation through without much opposition? You bet your ass you would. And just look at how little the GOP listens. Obama and the Dems are TRYING to let the GOP listen and offer insight....but when Conservatives refuse to side with a healthcare bill that currently would require 30 million people to purchase healthcare from PRIVATE, FOR-profit companies without a Public Option (meaning governemnt ISN'T taking over Healthcare, but making private companies richer) doesn't that agree with every conservative value? They won't even agree with things they stand for! The GOP is all about private companies making bigger profits. Way to listen GOP. Way, to, listen.
     
  17. Duck

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    :rofl:

    And yours is based on someone else's opinion or something? =D
     
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    Oh, and the Republicans have made healthcare bills, they make a new draft every time the Dems do, but theirs suck too.
     
  20. themnax

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    i like him, and the world is safer then it would have been with mccain and palin, a lot safer then it was with raygun and the shruberies, but i'm also of course disappointed in a number of decisions he appears to have made.

    however, he only just now appears to be gain traction on at least some of the positive things he might yet accomplish. repealing insurance exemption to sherman anti-trust is a good first step, albeint a small one, and an awfully long way into his presidency.

    even his talking more politely then we've heard in decades is good. he just hasn't latched onto an issue and persued it heroicly like kennidy did with space and civil rights.

    and there's so MANY out there to choose from. several he's addressed but really hasn't as vigerously persued as we had all hoped and elected him to do.

    i don't know how much is just show, but at least he hasn't so completely transparently lied and then tried to gain our simpathy for doing so by acting like an illiterate idiot, like what he replaced.

    a holding pattern isn't an ascent, but at least it isn't a nose dive either.

    i agree that too much is being expected of one man in one office, and yet, considering how much damage others have done from it, can we really be blamed for doing so?
     
  21. Duck

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    I don't agree at all.
    Most people that don't like him just want him to do something.
    Most of his detractors are most angry about two things:
    1) The stimulus - change? The bail-out was standard Reagonomics, trickle down bullshit. Change? Throwing money at the country's money problem - just like we've been doing with our social problems - just like we've been doing with our legal problems - just like we've been doing with everything.
    2) Healthcare - okay, here is something he is trying to change. But really, he isn't changing shit - he's making the bipartisan divide even greater, he's putting the government's hands into yet another aspect of everyday Americans' lives, he's focusing his attention elsewhere from our biggest problems (Bush focussed on war instead of diplomacy, Obama's focussing on healthcare instead of the economy), and he's completely ignoring the people's wishes on what is important

    Other things he's forgotten to change:
    "Government transparency"
    "Accountability on Wall Street"
    the Patriot Act



    I really do like him as a person, I really, really do - but he couldn't have fallen further from my expectations. I never thought he was going to change the world - but I thought he would be different, that's all I was asking for - but he isn't, at all.
     
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