who is worse?

so i was just thinking about this...

who is worse, the government or criminals (rapists, murderers, etc)?

while criminals can do a shit load of horrible things, the government (USA in particular) could do a lot worse... but they don't.... but they sort of do...

i dunno. poll coming shortly

 

the gov't, hands down

people who act out just need help and love

i suppose the gov't officials do in their own way.. but that's an institution we're talking about and my reasons for despising it are complicated

 

The government tries to fuck us ALL. Criminals just want a few of us.

 

criminals are a byproduct of the system put in place by the government, so the government is worse.

 

I didn't vote, because rapists are worse than the government, as much as the government sucks ass.. SOME murderers are justified though. For example, if a person murders a rapist, then they are alright, imo. It's all relative.

The government murders people everyday though.

 

This.

 

yeah that's what i was debating.

except i was focusing more on like... serial killers. like what if your mother was killed/raped by a serial killer/rapist

then obviously (as long as your relations are good with your mother) you'd pick criminals, because the government isn't going to sit there and kill or rape your mom

but on the wider scope, the government rapes us in non-sexual ways every day

 

i can guarantee that the government has caused more deaths then any murderers out there.

 

True. Like I said.....it's all relative.

 

lol i think we all agree on that

 

The government has killed thousands of innocent people, it is now declassified that the gulf of ton-kin never happened which was the main reason we killed over 50,000 of our own people. The government has killed up 30,000 innocent people in the middle east with their military drone planes. The C.I.A has killed all types of foreign government members and even toppled other foreign governments for their own political agenda wither it be a communist our democratic foreign government it doesn't matter. A C.I.A plane went down not to long ago with 4 tonnes of pure cocaine not to mention the amount of opium in the middle east has skyrocketed thanks to us intervention.

 

Since it seems rapists keep getting emphasized I have to say they are worse than the USA government.

How exactly are you going to cure rapists with love? They are not a product of the USA government - it's not easy to deal with mentally ill people; I don't think rapists can blame the government.

 

id say gov. but if i watched a man rape a 7 year old and a 3 year old id have a hard time not becoming a murderer myself. shit like that just shouldnt happen period.

 

Damn right. Like I said, some murderers are justified.

I mean, fuck the government, and I say that with my whole heart, but rapists are the lowest of the low. They are even lower than snitches, in my book.

 

their both the same.

 

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0524-02.htm

our government is not unlike a serial killer
except most serial killers dont drop bombs from planes

 

rapists dont kill thousands of innocent people

 

The government without a doubt... it forces taxpayers to fund its criminal ventures.

It enables white collar criminals by encouraging and helping create economic aberrations designed to in one way or another further concentrate wealth with the elites- think "housing bubble" and "sub-prime mortgages" being the meat and potatoes of George Bush's "Ownership Society" which was an economic centerpiece of his first term. The emphasis was on signing contracts regardless of whether the new home buyer would be able to afford his new digs in a couple years because the artificial demand was needed to help inflate real estate values and assessments to help generate property tax revenue.

This way states would be looking to Uncle Sam less to help bridge shortfalls in budgets that were (and still are) bloated with waste. The real draw was on the stock market manipulations- transferring the speculative value to stock packages created when banks and mortgage brokers unloaded the "assets" that they knew fully well were time bombs.

We paid up front with the depreciation of our retirements- IRAs, 401Ks and pensions- we paid next with- if not the loss of our jobs, the loss of benefits and wage cuts. We then paid with increased costs from insurance premiums because part of the fallout included insurance company losses when policies written at to cover potential losses when some more wary investors actually sifted through the mountains of paperwork and discovered what composed the "mortgage backed securities" that had been unloaded onto Wall Street by unscrupulous banks with the full knowledge and blessing of regulators and rating agencies that were intended to protect investors.

And we will be paying for some time with the trillions of dollar "rescue" bills rushed into law... TARP and "Bailout" were sold to a gullible public under completely false pretenses... the promises that it would be hundreds of billions dollars in ready cash for consumers to be borrowed until it became law and within one day the real terms were revealed as basically no strings attached--- so those billions and billions of dollars were either used to prop up shaky institutions, used to gobble up smaller banks, or salted away as equity that enabled them to better absorb the devaluation incurred by foreclosing on a depreciated piece of real estate.

Our taxes will be going up up up to bridge widening shortfalls when fewer dollars are collected through income and sales taxes because those that aren't out of work are afraid to buy anything.

Oh- and now the government wants to manage health care... do you really believe our taxes will not be going way up? Do you really believe that suddenly Washington, D.C. is going to spend money wisely and honestly and manage nationalized medicine to be cost effective for you and me?

The federal has very rarely shown the slightest hint that it has anything but the interests of its elite cronies at heart so why should it start now? If the United States government was really serious about fighting organized crime it would disband.

 

The government are the criminals.

 

How many of us are affected by rapists and murderers? and how many by the gov.?

And yes, i agree, IMO a large amount of these criminals are the by product of the government...