Insight of Julius Caesar.

Discussion in 'History' started by ChristianToker, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. ChristianToker

    ChristianToker Member

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    I decided to post this to clear up the name of one of the most famous counsels in all of Italian (or Roman, if you want to put it like that) History. I'm just posting the top 4 common misconceptions and truths.

    I. Julius Caesar persecuted Christians. FALSE. Caesar was assassinated in Rome in the year 44 BC. Nero is the one to blame for this.

    II. Julius Caesar was an emperor. FALSE. Caesar was never in his life an emperor. He was a counsel and a dictator, which is different.

    III. Julius Caesar was a brutal ruler. FALSE. I choose not to go into detail on this because it will take to long. Do research and decide for yourself, but I personally do not believe he was that brutal

    IV. Julius Caesar was involved in a homosexual relationship with Nicodemus IV of Bithynia. FALSE. Of course, I nor does anybody else, have proof of this being true or false, but many historians believe it was a way of character assassination and humiliation, and therefor is not true.

    So there you go.

    God Bless!
     
  2. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Well most of those are true, except the homosexual relations, even Caesar's own troops during the gallic triumph sang the chant:

    Gual was brought to shame by Caesar;
    By King Nicomedes, he.
    Here comes Caesar, wreathed in triumph
    For his Gallic victory!
    Nicomedes wears no laurels,
    Though the greatest of the three

    It must be remembered homosexual relations were common at the time, there's evidence numerous emperors took part in it, from modern evidence back to Suetonius's writings in the 2nd century. The main charge against Caesar was he took the passive role, gay sex was fine, it was just shameful to take on the passive role during it.

    Though a line I always liked about Caesar, he was known not to drink, and from Marcus Cato: "Caesar was the only sober man who ever tried to wreck the constitution"
     
  3. Maxwell95

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    Didn't he kidnap Cleopatra?
     
  4. ChristianToker

    ChristianToker Member

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    There's still no hard proof. Its all very possible that he was gay, but you know.
     
  5. ChristianToker

    ChristianToker Member

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    And no, not exactly.
     
  6. pit pat

    pit pat Member

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    pizza?
     
  7. sunshine186

    sunshine186 midnight toker

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    I read Julius Caesar this semester.
    It bored me to fuckin' death.

    I can't even count the number of times I fell asleep.
     
  8. ChristianToker

    ChristianToker Member

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    no thanks. I already ate.
     
  9. meridianwest

    meridianwest Senior Member

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    as far as i know this was already going on during Claudius. it had become a norm by the time Nero got power, so he certainly isn't to blame for this. although during his reign the "persecution" reached its peak, so he is viewed as the scapegoat by many.

    so what if he had homosexual relations with Nicomedes? it was a norm at the time. who even cares? and the source for this are Caesar's contemporaries, not the later historians who may have wanted to throw a negative angle on him. thus that line of logic doesn't work.


    unbless.
     

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