Question - Can anybody talk about this?

I could go out reading a lot of stuff and get it all by myself, but i've already made it once and in the end realized that all of the research was a waste of time, so don't want to make it twice. And the persons here look nice, so I'm trying asking here.

I actually know that I know near to nothing about existence. But the bit I know is made of things that really makes sense for me. I know a little about biology, physics, feelings... And none about anything like "divine" or "supernatural". In fact, I think I've never ever seen nothing that realy looks like supernatural.

Yesterday I was wandering with my mind, when I read something close to this: I'm not really "I" as a use to think, but somethink more like an instance that receives feelings about what's around me. From this I thought that a wooden table is not so different from my own body. I just used to think about me - or my body and mind as one - as somethink so very different of such an inanimate "stuff", like a desk. I've never thought that the only difference may be just the ammount of attention that I spend to my body an "feelings", and don't spend to whatever's outside of my body.

Like if my conscience had a membrane around my body, that feels the inside intense, and the outside like annoying things hitting MY beloved surface.

Following this point of view, your existence is not dependent to your body, mind, feelings, whatever. And so, things like "death" makes no sense, while things like "reincarnation" looks like a weird label over such a simple and very natural thing, like turning your head and looking to your left side instead of straight ahead.

But I'm still not comfortable with it, since I'm not sure about this thing of what I am now. I mean, where I am now, if I percept everything in the material scenario? Of what am this "I" made; and how much of this? Really, what in the world/hell/whatever is, exactly, this my wandering feeling station?

 

It's called empathy.

 

That table is I too.



Its the Iniverse.

Wonderful insights, but its one thing to know on an intellectual level, and another to KNOW, to the core of your be-ing.

The fact is, that we are always shadowed by our deaths, and its only in recent times that death has become so taboo. I think it has to do with the amount of control which is asserted over the people of the western civilization, with the primary means of that control being fear.

We have forgotten that there are indeed fates worse than that, and that everyone dies, so it can't be all that terribly scary.

As with all things, it boils down to perspective. You choose every day exactly how you manifest your life, and I find it terribly sad that many of us have forgotten that sense of responsibility. That we have fallen into a sense of victimhood' while nothing could be further from the Truth.

I personally hold everything I see and experience and am to be Divine. I AM a finite projection of an infinite consciousness, and I have the very same qualities as my Source.

As above, so below.

I have been contemplating this concept of I lately as well, and what I have thought is that I is everything, since there is no part of you or me which we could pint at and say, this is I. We can't see the forest from the trees, so to speak. So it is all our I, and it makes me wonder why there is all this suffering which exists in this world. And the only possible explanation or seeming justification for it all, is that everything must manifest, fully and completely. Perhaps this is what they call ultimate reality.

But we won't even know until death, if then. So all we can do is speculate, and bounce ideas off each other. Hell, maybe that's exactly what we're supposed to be doing.

But prope get so wrapped up in all this flashiness of the material world, and par sight of what is truly important, of the fact that all this matter and all these meat sacks are utterly impermabent, even their solidity is an illusion!

No wonder we're in the state we are in.

 

You see, I don't worry about death for a significant time, I think that it's because I saw that there are nothingfor me to do about death, actually at least. So this is not the most important point for what I'm talking about.

What did you say about the conscience of one being the uni-conscience of the universe, I think it's really, as you said, specullation. And more, think with me, if this were real, then everybody is able to feel every feeling felt in the universe, by anyone. Can you (or anybody) feel what am I feeling right now? Because I can't feel you, and as well never have saw nobody doing this to me.

Just because we don't know, it dons means that it's all an unique divine conscience - or label it GOD. It's like if a guy that never heard about eletrons went to claim magnetism as anything that says nothing really, like "magic" or "supernatural".

I would like to still see what other people think about what I said post #1. I am worried about it because it makes sense looking at it this way, don't it?

 

You don't have to worry.

Life's too short to worry.

I didn't mEan to imply that such an I would be accessible to all facets of the I. Perhaps in some other reality, but not this one. We have brains which we seem to think do such a great job at filtering outside stimuli. Who knows what other falsehoods it may have foisted upon us.

I merely wished to propose, that since there is no be-ing to which we can affix the label I, then it must be something greater than, for what else could it be?

Of course, it would be highly impractical should we be able to know each others hearts and minds, not to mention extremely bloody. Perhaps we are being protected from the full extent of our knowledge. Not fully ready, on a stage of development where we could be considered naïve.

You mUst understand, my idea of ultimate reality is everything happening all at once. The great hologram, where our three pounds of fat are the focusing lenses manifesting what seems to be linear time and a consecutive life.

You must also understand that I have a condition known as ADD, which has also affected my concept of time. This linearness is much less pronounced in my case, and everthing seems to run together. My condition allows me to pay attention to many more things which the brains of others filter out. It has affected me in the way that I am convinced that I am an Empath, one who can read the feelings of others, which I do alarmIngly well.

I can read people like books, and I KNOW them, which can be a frightening thing. I intuitively know their motives and loves and hopes and fears and dreams. I don't know how, but its just a knowing. But I have found that the majority of people are so insincere as to not be worth my time and effort opening up to. And it is this opening up, from soil to soul, which has led me to the conclusion that there is only The Soul. It is the few Real people which have kept me coming back, restoring my faith in hu-manity. Not to come off as bitter or anything, I am a quite joyful person, but when you have this sort of thing, empathy in the extreme, you HAVE to pick and choose, or else risk being overwhelmed.

So, while you may not be able to feel me; I, on the other hand, good sir, am most definitely able to feel you, even through these written words.

 

Now, are you really serious?
I know one could come and make a joke with such a thing. That's because i've ask.

For me, if you say such a thing, I think it'd be really amazing. To realize that I was born with such a stuff, wow.

Perhaps can you talk about my feelings, my friend? I hopefully await an affirmative answer from yours.

 

Well, it would be easier to telepathise, but as that isn't possible at this time..

Here goes.


You seem unsure of these new ideas, as if they will be criticised or not accepted. Which is perfectly understandable since they are just now occuring. You seem hesitant to place them in the public forum, for fear of the above reasons.

My means of gathering information are severely limited in this medium, as I normally judge by body language, and other things which can only be described as vibrations. These subtle things are always there, and your body is always attuned to them, its just most people don't develop the faculty to actually listen to them.

As I said, they are a kind of knowing, and do not particularly like being confined to words, as words are extremely limiting. Its a kind of intuition, easy to override and disregard, as most people do.

But it is both a blessing and a burden. Once you are open, there isn't much in the ways of closing. Not that that is what I wish, but I am often accumulating what I call static, and I am just now learning methods of coping with such things. Also, as I said before, you hyace to be wary of the majority of people.

Because the truth is, the majority of people are so insincere, even to themselves..

ESPECIALLY to themselves! And such people have a way of getting others to feed into them. I call these people etheric vampires, or organic portals.

There was one incident, the one when I first started my sensitivity, and the danger inherent in it.

A group of friends went out to explore an abandoned hospital on an old military base, and after smaging a bung of stuff, the cops showed up. There were at least fifteen people, and I say everyone down, and made them be quiet, as my girl went to deal with the cops.

I realised as we were sitting, that I could actually feel the anticipation and fear of all the kids, and after the incident, I was so drained that I could only go and spend the rest of the night with my girl, who knew that something was visibly wrong, but couldn't say what, and neither could I. The closest I could to expressing the sensation was as if a chasm had opened in me, a great void.

After talking it over with my psychotherapist, he proposed that I had acted as a container, while sitting with those kids, which seems to be the most likely explanation.

I have since become very selective in who I open myself fully to. And quite skilled in recognising those Real people.

 

Sounds like self-enquiry might interest you.

 

You can talk about it, and quite elegantly! Particularly in regard to identity having the fluidity of focus.

 

holy shit thank you for this. it makes me understand myself a lot better and why people and relationships are the way they are for me right now. I can also recognize real people and understand they are the only ones worth my time, but for some reason i am scared or them and continue to surround myself with people i feel more comfortable around.

Anyway i'm not as attuned to these things as you are but i definitely have a fraction of it. I have been diagnosed with add, that and the use of psychedelic drugs have really made me see things that people never think about. It really helps me understand people and where they are coming from, and it allows me to respond to situations rather than react to them because i can understand their point of view as well.

anyway enough about me. to the OP...don't worry about it. easier said than done i know but... what else you gonna do?