2C-E: does the discomfort drop at higher doses?

Took a low dose around 13 mg and didn't feel comfortable at all. lots of temperature variation. mild visuals, nothing amazing.

I understand 13 mg could be a low dosage. Wanting to experiment with a higher dosage, but am wondering if these bodily discomforts are intensified or if the high distracts from them?

Personal thoughts from others who get discomfort on this phenalymin (sp?) ... ?
Does it get any easier the higher you go, or more of the same? is the discomfort proportionate to the dosage? Any correlation?

I've read lots of reports, and it seems to vary person to person, but I am also wondering if dosage might have anything to do with it... Is it better to just dive in deep and take a stronger dose with RCs to overcome the discomfort, or work up to it?

I really didn't like the physical sensation at all.
Maybe they're just not for me?

 

15mg had moderate body load for me, definite temperature fluctuations, sweating, gas, that kinda stuff. and of course trembling and restless. and then grinning and gasping.

 

I always get an insane amount of euphoria with high doses of 2ce. There are certain measures I take to induce the euphoria though; I just find a very comfortable position and listen to some trippy music and the euphoria starts coming in waves......like very pleasurable electric currents.

I also become very euphoric when I am in a pitch-black room with my eyes closed during 2ce trips, whether I'm in a comfortable position or not.

 

i've never found it markedly euphoric...aside from once when i snorted 4mg and just had a mild buzz.

have you ever taken it by itself?

i've never taken a high dose, but wouldn't want to risk it due to it's high bodyload for me...i feel the discomfort at the 11-13mg mark as well. Alexander Shulgin summed up this compound well by saying "not terribly pleasant, but still worthwhile"

 

Yes, I've taken it by itself many times. The lowest dose I've taken was 15mg, and it was pretty unpleasant, but I've found doses of 40-63mg to be VERY euphoric; especially when I take the time to get into a comfortable/relaxed position.

That's just me though. lol

 

In my experience, the higher I go with 2C-E the less body load I get. However, this is because at high enough doses that annoying body buzz at lower doses gets turned into a full body vibration that starts syncing you up with the rhythm of the Universe. I feel like I get absorbed into the background noise of the world and at that point I'm not really thinking about my body at all. In fact, at that point, I'm fairly sure I don't have a body and if I did, it would only be a fleshy vessel weighing me down and keeping me from soaring through the heavens.

Remember what Mr. Hicks said.

"...all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration..."

 

Exactly. At higher doses, less of you is left in reality so there is less of you left to experience any negative sensations.

 

Also with more often use discomfort drops...

 

i find the opposite to be true. it seems that the more i trip on it, the more i notice the stomach pains it gives me.

i first took 12 mg and the nausea, temp fluctuations, etc weren't that bad at all
so i increased to 15 mg, 17, 20 mg a couple of times. but because of the negatives i experience at 17-20 mg, which is a bit worse than 12-15 mg, i don't wanna increase my dose any higher.
i've wondered the same thing though. maybe i'll take 25 mg

 

try not to eat for 8 or more hours before taking it... and eat lightly whole day or more.. I think fasting helps a lot..

when I was using 2c-e pretty often after 4-5 times I felt much less body load.. I didn't use it for more than a month and plan to take it again in about 2 weeks or so we'll see is it maybe because of often use in short period and not because of taking it more than few times.. I believe it's mostly in the mind... or maybe it's like someone suggested because of GI problems not caused with drug..

 

if i were you i would try it again at about 20-25mg. see how that suits you

 

I've taken 25-35mg and at that level I don't really notice any body discomfort

 

even 15mg had pretty strong euphoria. I can't wait to try like 40mg.

 

^^ Yeah. One thing that always seems to happen though is purging the shit out of the chemical, but then from then on it's a nice smooth trip

 

Do you think that could be because you're EXPECTING the discomfort? A person's mental state and expectations based on past experiences can influence the positive/negative sensations during a trip.

 

the negative sensations i'm most worried about come at the end of the trip/the comedown. i dunno, i might just be getting older. when i come down from a trip now (even acid) i just feel completely worn down. it never used to phase me

 

I've been thinking that. I've got some caps weighed at slightly over 20mg each (23-25mg) ... figure it might be worth exploring once again just to see.

If it's more of the same, then at least I'll know and can say I experienced a decent dose.

 

Take two of them

 

really?

2c-e is not a very euphoric compound for me at all...i find it to be more dysphoric to be honest.

 

Tripping will do this. It's because your serotonergic system is strained, and it can no longer support pleasant functioning post-trip. your brain now has less to work it and so after a trip you feel generally down.