I despise society...

Discussion in 'True Confessions' started by Blinkie, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. Blinkie

    Blinkie Member

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    Accepting the cruelty of the world and fellow human beings is part of growing up, right?... I guess I can't grow up, then, because with every new day, I hate my surroundings more. I hate the superficial mentality, the labor-or-die survival, the injustice at the hands of the government and the people.

    What upsets me the most is the ruthlessness of people. People, today, have been conditioned to be inconsiderate, greedy and all-out capitalistic. There's no more decency for the sake of being decent. There are hardly anymore pure relations. People assess eachother, see how they can benefit and if there's something good in it for them, they proceed. If not, they exploit that person for whatever small good they can get and then forsake them, or worse. ALSO, intelligence is basically discouraged...

    I know I'm an idealist but this hurts me so much that I'm ashamed to even be remotely associated with this hostility...

    I could go on but I've said my peace for now. Thanks for reading.
     
  2. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Don't accept it. Choose for yourself.

    There is if you are.
    It is the hostility of shame that hurts, not idealism.
     
  3. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    I am very much the same way as you... It's one of the reasons why I find it difficult to get out in the world and truly begin a life for myself.

    Mostly, I feel that the sort of love people express is mostly consistent to 'Scratch my back then I'll scratch your back'. Basically, most define love as a social contract and to me a social contract is far from being considered love.

    You're an idealist and so am I, but so what? Many people, even if it is only a few, have a pure kind of relationship and that enough reason to continue on being an 'idealist'. Ideally, we want everyone to experience these pure relationships, but the most we can hope for is to help them to discover that these relationships are very real and obtainable.

    I wrestle with the idea of whether or not I should 'let go' of idealism and just accept reality. But the thing is, you and I have already accepted reality. You aren't oblivious of the greed and the hate in the world, so how is it that you aren't already accepting it? I know that's not exactly what you meant by accepting, but accepting and realizing that is exists are two difficult things. Not realizing it is delusional, but accepting it as an inevitability for your own life is NOT necessary.

    And yes, intelligence is often discouraged by putting others down, telling others that unless they have a PHD on the subject then they should close their mouths and not speak on the subject. EVERYONE has the right to talk about any subject they would like to and no one should take our brains away from us. Because even if we ended up being wrong, at least we EXPLORED it with individual confidence... it is simply everyones right to argue any point and to freely express their ideas.

    It really is a labor or die survival, but at least we can decide on that labor and choose whichever life we want. Sure, we may not be able to live in mansions over our decision, but whatever job we choose should be based on what we actually enjoy and not by societal pressures of great success. If being a shoemaker is someones passion, even if it is a 'simple life' everyone has the right to choose that and be happy with it without allowing another to take that happiness from them.
     
  4. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    I used to be like you guys

    and then I got up over it

    it's like a ceiling you have, of your own perceptions

    i wish i could give you more to work with, from my experience,

    but I don't know how to show you what's right here.

    Ever take a picture and your finger is blocking parts of the scene?
     
  5. missedit

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    I think you've got the jist of it, people are the worst thing to happen to planet earth.

     
  6. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    The world is not full of undisciplined, unprincipled men, but it is full of men who have learned so well, unsound principles.
     
  7. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    I bounce back and forth.
    Some mornings I wake up in a curled up fetal position in tears from uncontainable love and extremely painful empathy for everything, for sentient beings who suffer, and for inanimate objects who allow me to project my personifications and sentiments on.
    Other times I wake up, go out into "society" and realize for the 1,000th time with disgust that human interaction boils down to nothing more than winning and losing, and everyone is out to win, always. And with this realization comes the next realization that it is my fate to let it happen, to always lose, because to lose is painful and shameful and weak and passive, but to win is also to lose.
    Ruthlessness does not bother me. Brutality does not bother me. It is the never ending, insufferable dignity, the outright refusal to accept lose that makes me feel helpless and troubled when around other people, and in part because I recognize these same traits within myself.
     
  8. sw0o0sh

    sw0o0sh Banned

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    It's entirely possible to look through peoples ego's and accept others, you just need to get your own out of the way first; stop taking it as something serious and worth putting up with. If you despise society, therein lies it power to control your inner state. Ie, make you feel miserable. Awareness comes first, accepting the situation and then rising above. Anything else is just letting yourself become exactly what you despise, and that's counter productive logically
     
  9. neodude1212

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    You're right swoosh, you win.
     
  10. deleted

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    i feel bad for people that believe life is an incarceration...

    Society isnt the problem.. its you..
     
  11. tzy240

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    Yeah. Social injustice kinda takes the "human" out of "human being".
     
  12. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    Thank you, sw0o0sh.
     
  13. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    I have had a pretty similar reaction to society of late, well since this Saturday just gone.

    I am on anti-biotics, so I cannot drink. I thus had to endure town on a weekend when all the punters were out, and watch society get pissed. It was horrifying to watch just what a world, or at least country, I live in.

    I go into a club, a women falls down some stairs, legs gone to jelly. She looked about 18. Her friends thought it was hilarious, so I helped her up and she just yelled at me instead. That's gratitude.

    But then there is outside of the place. About 4 cop vans, rushing ambulances, at least 4 fights and women crying on street corners with ripped dresses or boyfriends trying to drag them home by the ankles. This was all on the one main street, along with litter to the point that you couldn't see your feet through it in some area's.

    Am I the only one who has never got this drunk? Or this violent? I don't want to vomit on a street corner in front of people then get put into a headlock from a bouncer!

    I never usually head into the capital to do much drinking, I am more of a homely/pub kind of guy. I know this rant is a little pointless, but I felt it was a good idea to write it and get it off my chest.

    This all happened at around 2 in the morning, and they wonder why there is no 24 hour drinking in Britain. But then maybe that's why people get so drunk, beens they have a time limit. However I believe we have become the dregs of Europe behaviour wise, or at least half the country has.

    So yes, I am hating society. These weren't just young, rich, poor, black or white people- everybody was involved. I walked through the mess in my long jacket, leather gloves and umbrella and got called a 'faggot' plenty of times. I just think looking smart is a little more charming, since I didn't have to drink to pull that night.

    The end, fuck it.
     
  14. mr.greenxxx

    mr.greenxxx Not an Average Bear

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    sounds familiar.
     
  15. MovedOn

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    I would rather die than enter into the cycle of oppression and submission.

    Like I really think killing yourself in a public display would accomplish more good then breaking down and going into the humdrum job and raising a family.
     
  16. hotwater

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    The voluntary human extinction movement is always out looking for new members [​IMG]


    Hotwater
     
  17. The Earth

    The Earth Om Tare Tutare Ture Svaha

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    Were all here moving energy and eventually well all be with God again
     
  18. moondrizzle

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    I will never fully understand why some people want to control others so much, it really makes me sick the way people can be so narrow-minded and selfish towards others. People like that really need to realize how insignificant they really are and they need to let others live their life the way they want to.
     
  19. wetsocks

    wetsocks there's no one driving

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    lol at 18 going on 80 year olds complaining about the downfall of society
     
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