Why is knowledge evil ?

Does it say somewhere that we aren't going to be judged in between those two times?

 

i actually really like this thread for some reason... hmm.


but the bible is totally fucked up, so you should probably disregard most of what you read to be untrue.

 

Although I did not read this whole thread I only have one thing to say about this subject. Knowledge is power, it's not evil. Power has been associated with evil many times but you know what they say about power. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. It is not the knowledge that evil, it's the person who choses to use that knowledge. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

 

the analogy implied only god should put his hand on the stove.
not you.

 

check your reasoning

 

Thank you, Styve. I really didn't think it was that hard to understand.

 

As you judge you live under and according to your own judgment. Mans battle is not with God, it is with his brother. The person standing before you is either your savior or your jailer. As you conceive of him you also conceive for yourself.

 

Man's battle is with his brother??? Apparently we define brother differently.

 

I don't think we define brother differently. I think you might not recognize your brother and call him stranger instead. The body is common biological stock.

 

well... I would have a lot less problem battling a stranger, then I would someone I called my brother...

so, no, I dont think thats it....

edited to add..

I see where you are coming from on this... but I don't call all of humanity my brothers and sisters... peoples actions are what make them that way or not....

 

That is why the battle persists. And that is why we seem justified in our verdicts. We must condemn in order to justify our unwillingness to forgive. Many find it far easier to say I hate you than to say I love you.

 

100% agreement with this part at least....

 

well, if i am a child and want to play with the stove, of course i'm going to be burned. so mom tells me not to put my hand on the stove.

Mom uses the stove all day long [no i'm not sexist] so she knows what she is doing and what she is talking about.

 

They do not know what they are doing, but your definition of them defines the world that you perceive.

 

So, ignorance is an excuse?

 

No, ignorance is the reality and the remedy is education.

 

I'll bite. First of all, your post is a classic example of question begging. The question assumes that knowledge is evil, or that the Judeo-Christian tradition regards it as such, which is absurd. No Jew or Christian would regard knowledge of God or the Bible as evil. Not many would regard technology as evil. Most, in fact, would regard knowledge in general as a good thing. You set up a straw man.

My understanding of the passages in the Bible you refer to both illustrate the same fundamental problem. Lucifer was an angel, his name does mean "light-bearer" in Latin, and he figures in the Jewish apocrypha (not the Biblical canon) as leader of a rebellion of angels against God. In Isaiah, there is a passage referring really to the King of Babylon, but making an analogy to Lucifer: How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star, son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low! You said in your heart,'I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit on the mount of assembly on the heights of zaphon; I will ascend to the tops of the clouds, I will make myself like the Most High.' But you are brought down to Sheol, to the depths of the Pit. " So what we have is not an intellectually curious, knowledgeable being, but one who wants to exalt himself, and is subsequently humbled. Likewise, Genesis, Adam and Eve are not interested in knowledge for the sake of knowledge, but instead for the sake of status and power: to be like gods.

My take on both stories is that they illustrate the fundamental human (and fallen angelic) condition: a vulnerability to worldly attachments, especially an insatiable quest for power and status. A beautiful angel and two humans in paradise can't be content with a posh situation. They have to have it all, to be like gods, and end up in the pits.

 

It's not.

Adam and Eve did not eat from the tree of knowledge, they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. There is a difference between knowledge in general and the knowledge of good and bad.

 

Personally I don't believe true Christians hate science, the theory of evolution or medical marijuana.

Take for instance, evolution, I personally find it fascinating and probably know more about it than the average person on the street. The only problem I have with it is that evolutionists don't seem to know the difference between could have and did.

 

What church are you talking about? My church is fine with evolution, as are many churches (even the Pope accepts it), and as for medical marijuana, I don't think it's taken a position. Not every Christian is a Bible thumping Baptist fundamentalist.