High Doses

Maybe the question was misunderstood, or completely ignored like the internet likes to do. I'm going to with people always seem to just respond to one part of a paragraph or what they think the question was.

THIS IS THE QUESTION HERE:

I meant before trying 10, should I one day try 5? Then some other day try 8? etc. Most I've done is 3 so far. I personally would not mind going straight to 10 but I'm asking here to see if that's a bad idea.

Thanks for any re-responses.

 

If you're in Europe and get good acid (1/2 blotter enough for visuals) better increase your dose gradually than just eating 10-strip next time. Never heard that people here eat 10-strips. I know for HC trippers who went living to India who usually used to eat 5-6 great blotters.

The blotters I'm almost absolutely sure how many mics they where (very legit source told me they where tested round 100mics) where 1/2 potency or less of best blotters I have eaten. So 10-strip would be 2000mics or more... Hmmm...

Last time I got some shity blotters that you need to eat 2-3 to get some visuals.. it would not be a problem to eat 10-strip of those.

 

Start with 5-7 and then re dose if you don't think you are ready for 10 at once, it's all on personal preference tbh. The first time I ate acid was 5 hits of true 4-way, 3 at first and then 2 a few hours later. I wish I could get shit that good still.

 

I'm waiting for the good opportunity to take a high dose. I know I need to be prepared. I agree it's not good to give it to your friends without them really being ready. I have some friends that are aware and want to give it a shot. However they still talk about it like it could really go wrong...not just introspective or weird like any intense experience can be. Like they think of ways that they'd be able to get out of such a state instead of realizing the only way out is through it.

 

The only true way out IS through it, they are the best experiences in the world to me. The only way to get through it is to let go, don't be scurred of anything.

 

NO. Eat at LEAST ten. Shit, eat more than that if you can. With LSD, the more you eat, the better. You can take a (not high enough) dose, thinking its high, and then run into some extemely profound problems. Please, PLEASE take my advice... some day people will understand that bad trips are not possible without an ego.

 

so in theory, 10 might not be enough? someone could take 10 and still freak out

 

if its weak yeah. I've taken 11 hits at a time once . . . was about as strong as ONE of the blotters that I took 5 hits of.

 

Ask yourself how far you went out with 3 hits. If you went pretty far out, if you had a really open mind, and the trip was very abstract and unexplicable, then you could go straight to 10.

If the trip was just a colorful and playful experience, just a type of high to you, I would recommend taking a 5-6 hit dose. Depending on the potency, a 5 or 6 hitter might be all you need or want.

10 hits is a different realm though. With 5 hits, you can most the time still be the master, you can still do worldly things and forget the trip. With 10 hits of some good stuff, there is no question, all you can do is trip, you can barely move, you can barely talk, your the trips bitch for the next 12 hours. In fact you are the trip, there is no more you, only the trip, only the happening.

 

Yeah, I'm about to become the happening today off 4 hits off some fresh fucking obama's that been going around. My labby friend is saying 125 ugs. ;p Can't even wait

 

why so defensive, I was agreeing with you : P

 

Seriously listen to me word by word.

First step is dropping all expectations. You might find this strange but I honestly think smaller doses are more difficult, with higher doses there is no "bargaining". You're just going to trip face, bottom line, but don't let that scare you, lol. Love the shit out of it. You'll be the trip master once you get it down. I'd call 5 - 10 hits breaking that acid cherry. You got no more time for silly kids talking about freaking out over 1 hit and wondering if they should take 1/4 more of a hit. I've introduced new kids to strong blotter and they didn't trip off 1 hit, well, they did, it was just more giggly and slightly euphoric, versus extremely visual / mind blowingly beautiful and euphoric. I find acid to at least require 3, even though 4's usually my number for trying new blotter, and 6-8 is my content hero zone.

Tapering is.. eh, I don't know. Lots of mixed opinions but I follow the train of thought that once the chemical hits certain receptors in your brain, those receptors will have a tolerance from then on until you break for 5 days and re-dose. So 10 doses hitting you all at once versus, say 5 then 5, would be way more in tense. If you take two then eight later and your trip already feels strong, chances are you'll be too afraid to jump the gun.

Set and setting is key as well. If you're really worried, the main thing is having a trip sitter who can control you if needed so you don't physically harm yourself. Who should also have some anti-psychotic medicine on him so you can abort if it gets ugly. But that's only if you're worried man. Not many people actually "freak out", and some peoples "freak outs" are different. It's only natural to feel as though you are going crazy on a drug that is TOTALLY distorting/altering your way of thinking. TOTALLY. You ever listen to some kids on acid? They obviously aren't making any sense while UTI half the time. So assume that you're train of thought is going to be miles away from where it usually is, and that is going to make your ego (if it hasn't dissolved yet), give it a sense of dying or being ripped away and obviously this can only be interpreted as frightening. What usually makes the everyday YOU feel like the everyday YOU is being replaced completely. The unknown is a terrifying place for some people, but it's a disguise, it really is a heaven for those who accept the invite.

When I had my ego subdued via acid many years ago (7 hits), it was confusing because I had no idea what the ego loss state was or was about (I never even looked into this shit, never even heard of an "ego" then), so naturally I didn't know what the hell was going on, and I mean literally lol. No clue of where I was, who I was, or what I was doing. Friends were familiar, but I was not there at all. I had a buddy of mine walk me around the neighborhood we were in like 14 times because I got caught in those acid loops and kept like re-awakening into a sober mind set lol (I basically kept forgetting he showed me where we were and would ask again). Looking back though, it was seriously one of my corner stone experiences. This made my second time dealing with ego loss completely successful, I was able to get to it and maintain it until the drug wore off. I am very happy to have it and it has helped me understand how this drug gets on high doses. Pretty much laid down the foundation for every hero dose I've taken since. I don't even really consider bad trips possible for me any more. My last 15-30 trips have been solid.

Pop that cherry and you'll have a whole new outlook on tripping.

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Also, this book, is nothing short of a Godsend for interpreting those feelings on hero doses. But you need some background and understanding around Middle Eastern concepts I think (to really grasp it anyways). Tbh, I think kids get fucked up permanently off hero doses because they're just doing the drug for something to be high on. It really is one of the most powerful psychoactive tools and shouldn't be fucked around with this high unless you got some other purposes with the drug. You don't need to be attempting to achieve enlightenment (which is a common acid paradox so don't bother) or anything but at least be aware of what it does psychologically so nothing comes off as a terrifying mystery. But yeah, Psychedelic Experience - See if you can even take any of it in.

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/psychedelic_experience/psychedelic_experience.shtml#2.1

If you need any help understanding it I'm pretty good at translating shit in Lamen's sometimes, just ask, the majority of this book is worth every word.

 

Thanks sw00sh. Yeah, from what I read from you, Writer, PB, (pr0ne too with his constant "dose higher!" messages) and such, I think I have a pretty solid understanding and pretty healthy attitude and approach. I think I may even try it alone (with other people around, I will just pussy out and get involved with them, rather than just face the source).

Your opinion on tapering is interesting. I've always wondered if there was a good way to pro-long the trip, but yeah, perhaps 10 at once would be pretty fuckin' hilarious. It'll be a while till I'll have do$h to blow on 10 hits (and 10 hits worth buying), so 'till then it's just cool knowledge to have. Peace.

 

Tapering sucks. I hate when people say "I took 7 hits yesterday!" oh really? "Yeah 2 at 8 am, 2 at 4 pm, and 3 at midnight!"

absolutely missing the point; one experience, one dose.

 

Riiight...way too long with only the one peak.

 

Prolonging the trip... 8 hours + the peak not long enough!?!?!

 

If I could peak out for a full day straight I would happily. Lol

 

Whenever I eat mushrooms I always make sure to eat sum, wait till i start tripping, eat some more, wait to start tripping a little harder then eat the last amount. That way I get like 12 - 14 hour trips, instead of the usual 6-8. And the peak builds, and builds, and builds, so its likke whooaooaoa when it happens.

 

when you use this method are you eating like an eighth or a quarter or more? just curious. it seems like if you at a gram, then another gram 45 minutes later, and another gram 30 mins after that...i dunno, doesn't seem like you'd trip that hard as if you ate 3 grams at once.

if you ate an eighth, then another few grams, and a couple more....of course you're gonna trip for awhile. but you still coulda ate them all at once and tripped harder.

 

Most I've done is ~3 tabs.