And every girl that works in retail is one slow night away from hanging out on the corner after work. Using your logic, every woman is one step away from being a hooker. You obviously hold women in high regard.
People are unique and full of surprises, so you never know what you're going to run into in a club. One time I was in a topless bar where the dancers had to wear G-strings at all times. The waitress came to my table and crouched down to take my order. She was wearing no panties under her miniskirt, and I got a good look at her bare, clean-shaven pussy. That was no accident. What was her game? I have no idea.
Golly Gee ToolMaggot, I guess I stand corrected. Cocktail waitresses at nudie bars never become strippers, and strippers never become prostitutes. None of them use drugs, or have daddy issues. They are all paying their way through law school, and just like having a job that makes men smile. Just ignore the Mofia involvement and prostitution raids in the news. You need a lesson in LOGIC. Every woman would have to work in a strip club for that statement to be true, and I said nothing of the sort. Why don't you take your misguided feminist anger somewhere else? Flame ON! Let me explain without using big words, so you can understand: MOST self respecting women would have a moral issue working in a strip club in any capacity. It can be a slippery slope when you start reasoning your morals away. I simply repeated a common saying in the industry. What makes you so sure that this saying is without basis? My friends' older sister told it to me when I was 13. She was waiting tables at a strip club, then started stripping when she needed to make more money. I have heard the same saying time and again, from many people who have worked on-stage, the front door, and behind the bar. Many places actually have rooms (not the champagne room) in back for sex, and the house gets a piece of the action. Stripping is not the glamorous lifestyle that many girls romanticize. For the record, most retail workers get paid a flat rate, so slow nights pay just as well as busy nights. If they work for commission, then they would be one slow night away from riding the bus. It goes back to that self-respect concept I mentioned earlier, but I don't expect you to understand that. I'm not sure how your sick and twisted logic draws the connection between retail and hooking. I can tell from other threads that it's your standard MO to try and vilify and bully people, rather than engaging in a civil debate. I'm just surprised you didn't accuse me of believing that all Nuns are one empty collection plate from being prostitutes. I only hold people in high regard if they hold themselves in high regard. If you don't respect yourself, then why should I? How many little girls want to be a stripper or a prostitute when they grow up? Why do most strippers lie about what they do? Why are they ashamed to tell their parents? It's not a respected profession. The only reason guys want to DATE strippers is for the sex, not marriage. Is it any surprise that a guy doesn't want his wife seducing strangers for money and rubbing her naked body against them until they cum? Explain to me again how that isn't bordering prostitution, or why I would hold them in high regard. I rose out of a neighborhood where there were gunshot every night, junkies next door, needles in the gutters, and people who sent small children to sell drugs because they don't get sent to jail if they get caught. I've known many strippers and prostitutes personally because they were my neighbors. What difference does one more step make when you've already started down the road of self-destruction and don't care about yourself? Not everybody ends up in the slums by choice, and I swore to myself that my children would never be exposed to such an environment. I was just lucky to have parents that emphasized self respect and morals. I worked hard and get myself out of that ghetto, and now I have a loving wife and family based upon mutual respect and a similar outlook on life. I guess you've lived a charmed life and never seen the depths of desperation that cause people to make some really bad decisions and start down a slippery slope to their own destruction. Would you be supportive if your daughter was a stripper, or would you do everything in your power to get her out of there? Just keep living in denial about the harsh realities of life. IT'S OBVIOUS THAT SELF-RESPECT IS A FOREIGN CONCEPT TO YOU.
how many strippers do you personally know? just curious. or are you just getting your strong opinions about this from what you see on the telly?
I told you the story of my friends sister already. I moved into a really bad neighborhood right after graduation. There was some tagging in some areas, but it wasn't the hood. More of a blue collar ghetto with lots of section 8 housing. I wasn't afraid to walk around at night, but you could see everything going on. I was always cool to people and talked to my neighbors, because they look out for the people who look out for them. There were two girls across the street who both had kids and both stripped. They took pity on me and took me under their wing. I was hitting on a girl at a party they threw. Then, one of them pulled me aside and told me to stay away from this chick. I wasn't 21 so I had never been to a strip club. She told me she was a whore and filled me in on the kinds of thing that can go on in the clubs, and outside after hours. They were really good people who were trying to raise good kids, and I respected them a lot. I dated an ex-stripper for a couple of years. She had 2 kids and hadn't stripped for 5 years when I met her. She had been a meth addict and started striping to support her habit. She told a lot of stories that were beyond belief. I didn't care about her history, because I didn't want to be judged for my history. She was Bi and liked to pick up strippers from the clubs to bring home, so I've met a few that way too. She started doing crank after hooking up with an old friend, and I stayed with her and tried to help (get) her to quit using for almost a year because I really loved her. When she told me she needed to start stripping again to pay bills, I knew she was in deep and wasn't going to quit. I had no interest in dating a stripper so I broke it off. That's when I realized that I can't make another emotional investment in a person who doesn't respect them self. Your word are wasted and they'll tell you anything you want to hear. Then they do whatever they want when you're gone. My buddy worked as a bouncer and bartender at several clubs, and always went to the bars where the strippers hung out. I can't begin to count how many strippers I met hanging out with him. You would hear the same stories about originally being a waitress at the club. The prostitution wasn't always sex for money. You would hear about a regular customer who bought her a car. Basically, the guy is offering a girl a $500-1000 car, and she just has to fuck him a couple of times to get it. Nothing that a police sting would catch, but it's still sex for a car. A number of girls who got drugs from their regulars were also trading sex, but they just claimed he gave it to them for free. I never said that ALL strippers are whores, but if the price is right, someone will go for it, especially if they have an expensive habit. It could be something small during a lap dance, while some places had a dressing room that could be used. My buddy told me that $500 would get you practically any stripper at the place he was working. I don't know if owners condoned it, but the bouncers and manager were involved, and it was a safe place for the girl to do the deed with a bodyguard outside the door. So what's your deal? And why do you claim to know so much about strippers?
because i have talked to and befriended enough of them to know what i'm talking about. thank you for sharing your experiences and others'
Maybe he should check out an adult theater or go to an adult toy store that has movie booths. Then he can jack off all he wants. Someone may even offer to help him. Guys are paying to fantasize about nude women at these clubs. They will spend everything they have in hopes that this fantasy will come true. Some dude jacking it at the table isn't fulfilling anyones fantasy. In fact, it is the exact opposite of what they are hoping to see.
Seriously? You touch your twig and berries in a strip joint and want to know why you got booted? No common sense. At most strip joints the written rule is that they can touch you, but you cant touch them. The UNWRITTEN rule is that you don't touch yourself, either. Part of the reason the girls are so willing to strip is that they feel safe that the guys there are not going to try anything or else they'll get kicked out, just as you were. When I go to a strip joint, its to view the naked girls and appreciate their beauty. Sure I get aroused, but I respect the girls there too much to pull a stunt like you. No class, man.
This is why I never understood why men waste their money going to these places. All you can do is look? I could do that for free on my computer.
if I ask for a gay night club or go to a gay bar she me if I want to dance naked. and I undress and am totally naked. naked with me naked too so no shoes. when my penis erection is also completely exposed. my penis state erectile upwards, and is also completely insight my scrotum. as nice hanging my pocket, see well the contours of my balls. and they can also clearly see how precum running out of my penis. is often it groove of my penis open.