Do you believe in God?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by drew5147, Jan 5, 2010.

  1. 1drifter

    1drifter Member

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    so i am currious- was the topic so obviously below everyone - that it did not warrent a serious answer? or has this one been talked out till we can go no further??
     
  2. famewalk

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    It means at this that it is an understanding for what I have expressed as facts. Nevertheless, the facts I have represented were questioned in the past common perception on the News of the world , and then I already made my leap of faith before I consulted anyone. Now, You claim that My leap was without the concernful bounds for the World as the wishful optimism of finding in It the simplified answer of rebuilding a Nation (right?) The incentive has shown that democracy is like some sort of blackmail clause for the nations Hope at working itself out for the sharing of Survival ethics of the various tribes and factions of common working Praxis. So thus is the World. I have made another Leap of Faith. Here, now, is an empirical world of peoples with varying ideologies and strategies over the one God, Allah or Jehovah, which really is for the time being redundant between the people's actions and the applied state of economic activity for their actions.

    I know that the Hellimond River flows into the desert and vapourizes just over the border in Iran. I don't know how people don't fight for that sort of existence of evaluatable economic capacities in Worldhood improvement.

    The faith is added in the objectivity of the World. Is that God? How we would want to force our knowledge of objectivity upon the Afghany and Taliban. It seems all these leaps of faith must break down every time the Muslims refuse Allah for the people from the individual's marketing ideals of the physically co-incident Worldhood to those people He is creating and selling to.:D


    As Sartre wrote; I am happy.
     
  3. thedope

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    I too am above the battle field, I find myself in time, tending to the casualties of war. Blessed are those who mourn.
     
  4. famewalk

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    To Christians the answer to this question is supplied in the social context;either that or it is a value-neutral issue to the presence of the Worldhood.;) There is no question mark for the leap of Faith for these heathens. What's the matter? God cannot certainly define the world appropriately? They do all that other dealing of goods and:eek: ... we mourn, but we REALLY do not mourn.
     
  5. thedope

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    And what does this mean to the man who is convinced he is hungry? Why did you come?
     
  6. famewalk

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    I am a miraj in the desert. Look for the sign before the dune blows in your direction. Or something rather lacking of certainty after-all.
     
  7. thedope

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    You made the definitive statement already, didn't you?
     
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    A mirage is an inferior image.
     
  9. bree53

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    I believe in illusions.
     
  10. famewalk

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    ... sulfur is the post-modern symbol for WAR. Tell me I'm wrong.
     
  11. Zorba The Grape

    Zorba The Grape Gavagai?

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    That's a subjective judgement. You can't be wrong, nor can you be right.

    However, I will tell you that all this post-modernist/existentialist/absurdist crap is just that. You're not saying anything new or interesting; you're just saying things which may or may not be true and adding a mystical/surreal twist to them to make you appear deep. The same things have been said a thousand times before, but they've been said concisely and reasonably so that they make a certain amount of sense. They've also been said even more times the way you are saying them. You're intentionally making these things seem unintelligible and difficult to comprehend when they're not. You're not deep or interesting. You're just a 59 year old guy posting on an internet forum and trying to impress people who don't know any better.
     
  12. drew5147

    drew5147 Dingledodie

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    But I LIKE being mystical!
     
  13. Zorba The Grape

    Zorba The Grape Gavagai?

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    But where does it get you?
     
  14. famewalk

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    It gets you to the formal judgment by Edmund Husserl. He wasn't an Atheist? Was He? And then the likes of Bertrand Russell and A.J.Ayer were.


    And nothing paradoxical in the "Revolt of the Masses" by J. O. Y'gasset.
     
  15. bree53

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    Fragments of the whole product in confusion mastering my soul
     
  16. 1drifter

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    i'll tell you this - no eternal reward will forgive us now for waisting the dawn
    -Jim Morrison
     
  17. 1drifter

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    perhaps we should all believe in the prolonged dulling of the sences--learning lifes lessons through drugs and surfing
     
  18. bthizle1

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    Why don't you ask this man,
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    (I believe he'd say something to the effect of "God is dead.")

    Oh and if anyone can find that joke, that's the picture of the bathroom wall with grafiti that reads,

    God is dead
    -Nietzsche

    Nietzche is dead
    -God


    I thank you in advance.
     
  19. themnax

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    why should i ask any man anything about something that has nothing to do with anything anyone imagines or believes themselves to know about it?

    yes i believe there's a god. or something close enough to it. but not that its under the slightest obligation to resemble what any organized belief, disbelief, or anything else, claims to know about it.
     
  20. 1drifter

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    the real enemy is ignorance. a lack of education and an overdose of religion leads to people following the confusion -

    -play follow the leader down well trodden corridors into the valley of steal....
    ...bleeding and babbeling, we fall on his neck with a scream, wave upon wave of demented avengers rush gently out of obscurity into the dream...-pink floyd-sheep
     

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