Food, Inc

I said "I have faith though that you aren't making terribly disgusting health decisions. God knows there are people with far worse natural karma."

Second. You are pretty plainly said, a bitch.

Just be thankful I'm stooping to your level and playing your snot word games because I don't care, like you.

 

I said "I have faith though that you aren't making terribly disgusting health decisions. God knows there are people with far worse natural karma."

Second. You are pretty plainly said, a bitch.




Okay? So what? thats your opinion to scoop down and keep calling me a bitch because i dont agree. you obviously dont know how the world turns. Im explaining my realistic views to people and yes they agree but it seems you're the one bitching. Go on fourth and parade around that meat isnt good to you. I dont care. If you suddenly dont like me, stop bitching at me.

 

In relation to the movie. If more people that can pay a little extra money for organic do, then there is more momentum for changes. Just giving less money to the monster productions. Don't be wasteful. Just making yourself aware, and learning about everything is one step forward.

Everything takes time, and we may even run out before we can solve anything. It's a crisis. Some people are suffering more than others, and because that, we can help them, at the same time as making steps in our own system to be more sustainable.

Sustainability is not about our health right now it's about making sure future generations have resources because we have kept our earth healthy and able to continue its cycles.

One of the best things we can do with our time is learn. The more we learn, the more we may become aware of a lifestyle choice.

 

ehhh i'm done

 

this thread, pure win and full of non sequitur's

bravo, bravo

would read again

 

Then clearly this is for you, Pilgrim...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpGvrnjgSI4"]Food biz propaganda

 

of course food is a profit industry, why do you think there are quotas? why do you think the gov't encourages competition between shops?

 

Even organic is very profit oriented. The reason it was able to grow so much in the past 20 years was because there was a lot of money to be made in it and thus more people began to grow organic. The issue is not necessarily about the money. It's kind of good we can get food to more people by making it cheaper. What we need to be able to do is make organic far less expensive so we can get more people healthier. In this we shy away from practices unhealthy for the earth. Sustainability.

However, money is an issue. We don't feed people because many are unable to pay for food. If there is so much food on earth, everyone should have the right to it.

 

Awesome thing is, when you go to the website, you find the campaign is run by the corn refiner's association, and a lot of the "facts" they list have been disproved (such as the myth they tout about hfcs adding stability to carbonated drinks, when in fact studies show it makes them even LESS stable and breaks the chemicals down into harmful free radicals shown to cause cancer).

Hfcs wouldn't be pushed so damn hard if we didn't have the corn surplus problem... Farmers pouring their heart and soul into the only thing they know the government will pay them unconditionally for.

 

source?

 

i do love freeze pops. don't think they are a good idea for a picnic though

 

organic is PURE profit exploitation

 

Well yeah in the modern market aspect. It means a lot different things when you look back to the new earth movement. There are big differences in the practice, more so when you bring sustainability into the picture. Obviously, there is a bit more of work.

 

sure.. there is more work.. but there are less chemicals.. less antibiotics... less hormone injections.. im sure these tits and tats even out.. there is no reason a gallon of organic milk should cost 2x as much as a normal gallon of milk.. until there is reasonable price differential.. i am not supporting the organic consumerism.. sure some of it is reasonable.. but 80%.. if not more.. is nothing more than a profit scheme.. and then on top of it there is leeway in the USDA ORGANIC stamp.. which just shows how false satisfying buying organic can be...

• '100 percent organic,' with the USDA seal: Used when all ingredients and methods are organic
• 'Organic,' with USDA seal: Used when 95 percent or more of the ingredients are organic
• 'Made with organic,' no USDA seal: Used when at least 70 percent of the ingredients are organic
• No seal or organic wording: Used if less than 70 percent of content is organic in which case wording may only appear on the side label of the product, not the front or back

 

Okay that's I only support my local school's organic program by eating their fruits and vegetables. But prices are coming down as it expands.

 

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/532433/

Never mind, it causes tissue damage (not to mention the diabetes link). Sorry, I'm a little rusty. Did a paper on this my junior year for my Food in Society class, which incidentally is the class that introduced me to Michael Pollan's books (which in turn introduced me to Joel Salatin).

http://www.sweetsurprise.com/learning-center/why-is-hfcs-used
^This is the page where the corn syrup campaigners claim it keeps the sodas stable (well, more stable than sucrose- they've added that since I was there a year ago. sneaky sneaky).
If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, you will see the Corn Refiners' seal.

 

My social sciences class took a walk to a local movie theater to see this documentary. The truth is disturbing! It's better to know though...

 

Thank you.

 

Sure thing. Should've done it before... Honestly, it sounds awful, but the wikipedia page on it is the best place to start for looking for information, but just for the references at the bottom of the page. I never take anything just at face value on Wikipedia. If it's not cited, I don't quote it. If it is, I follow the link to check on it.

 

Somehow, I had access to the study in the report above...Lo et al: Reactive carbonyl species and tea components: Dicarbonyl compounds and 5-(hydroxymethyl)-2-furfural in beverages containing high fructose corn syrup...read it the other day, now its wanting me to pay for it...so i'm not able to look at it right now.

a couple things we must do when reading stories like the above is to find and understand the context it was written for,understand the dosage, and then consider the entire body of research that is presently available.

this brings me to this paper, Misconceptions about High-Fructose Corn Syrup: Is It Uniquely Responsible for Obesity,
Reactive Dicarbonyl Compounds, and Advanced Glycation Endproducts?

This paper does address the Lo et al paper from the above, and you can get at this link:
http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/reprint/139/6/1219S.pdf


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