Me, a buddy from college and her(girl i had a crush on in high school) are walking up the stairs at college and she turns turn to him and said "I need to talk to you about Jon"(Jon is me). I'm just puzzeled at that point. They walk up the stairs talking and I wake up.
Well, there is quite little information to go on here. I am wondering how your relationship to that buddy is and how close you feel your buddy and the girl are in real life. And how is your relationship with the girl. Does she know you have a crush on her? Does your buddy know this?
Here's the deal, that buddy is in my classes now and he's good friend of mine. And he doesn't know that I like her, and I don't even know if he knows her or not. Never bothered to ask him. Well me aren't talking anymore. We stopped about a year ago. I told her in January 2009 that I had a crush on her for what is now 10 years. And she was happy that I finally said it, but didn't feel the same. A month later we stopped talking, because she felt it was in the best of interest for me and I agreed. Fast forward to late January 2010 I had another friend talk to her on facebook and she told him that she remembers our conversation(when I expressed my feelings for her) a year later. And a little more then a week after that is when I had this dream. So in the end, me and her are not talking now. I tried sending her a friend request after my buddy talked to her(but before the dream) but she denied it. That's where I stand now.
Hmm.. interesting, I think your buddy in your dream stands for the other friend (or just a friend in general). You apparently don't like the fact that you and your crush are not talking at the moment, even though you agreed on that. On the other hand I think you feel that this girl is not comfortable with the situation either. She doesn't have those kind of feelings for you, but she still feels sorry for you. And she doesn't want to discuss the situation directly with you. I think that's all I can make out of this. Perhaps the best way to go now is to accept that she is still not ready to deal with this situation directly. You should give her more freedom (because adding her as a friend on facebook, while you agreed on not speaking to eachother, is still pushing) and who knows, when she is ready to face you the two of you might still become best friends in the future. Just don't push it, don't count on it, go on with your life and life may surprise you. Well that's just my humble view. Take care!
That's an interesting interpretation of it. But how are you coming to the conclusion that I feel that this girl isn't comfortable with the situation either? Is that based on the dream? Or are you basing that on the last conversation that my buddy and her had a few weeks back? You know, I've always been afraid to push when it came to her, just how I am. And I never really considered adding her on facebook as friends again was pushing, I gotta remember that. Though your the only person that thinks she might not be ready to deal this situation directly. Even though I might disagree with that, it's still an interesting point you brought up. But I have heard from another person that they share the same view as you, that she might send me a message and want to face me again someday(as you put it). It would be nice if we became good friends some day down the road, but like you said don't count on it. And like you said, life may surprise me. And you are right about "You apparently don't like the fact that you and your crush are not talking at the moment, even though you agreed on that.", but hey there's not much I can do about it. And one last thing, there's more to this story then you could imagine. I would have to explain a lot of things to you that pertain to the conversation me and her had(the one she still remembers) that could, perhaps have her still feel sorry for me.
Well, I must say, that I also took into account the dream you posted on the 8th of february on this forum. Because of the fact that you saw this girl crying, and the fact that in this dream, she is the one saying ''I need to talk to you about Jon'' (it was not your buddy that wanted to talk to her!), I think that you feel (subconsciously) that she is not comfortable with the situation either. And the fact that I think she is not ready to deal with the situation directly; well, at least she doesn't want to deal with it directly, otherwise she would have accepted your facebook invitation or at least contacted you one way or the other after the talk with your friend. And that's what your dream is about: she wants to talk to your friend about you and not to you directly and that bothers you. But of course I realize that there must be much more to the story. All I can say now is that I think it is a little bit odd that you've been friends for about ten years or so (?) and that now after you told her you've had a crush on her, all of the sudden she doesn't want to talk to you anymore. Apparently she thought that was for the best, but had she been able to accept this fact and been comfortable with it (because apparently she doesn't feel the same way) I don't think this would have been needed. Personally if it happened to me (that one of my friends would admit he/she had a crush on me, while I don't share the feelings) I would just make that very clear, and just put an arm around them and say that as far as I'm concerned we are just very good friends (nothing more nothing less). So that is why I think this is a little bit odd, but of course there is much more to the story which could make this clearer.
I didn't think anyone read the other dream. Let me correct one thing, I was only friends with her for two months not ten years(that's how long the crush was, not the friendship). And the friendship didn't after that conversation, it ended a month later after I wanted her to help me get over her. Which might I add didn't work. I didn't know her well in high school, because I only knew her threw friends of mine. I've had my chances to talk to her, but didn't because I was shy. And I let her know all that in the letter I sent her when I expressed my feelings to her. It would bother anyone, if someone didn't want to talk to them directly.
Well ok, that explains a bit I think. And, for the record, I don't blame you at all that it bothers you that she won't talk to you, especcially since you have a crush on her. I have a story of my own on that matter, which also is the reason that I started to become interested in dreams like this in the first place. So you asked her to help you get over the crush and she thought it best that you wouldn't see eachother again in that case? Sounds logical, but also out of own experience I know that this doesn't always help. The only one who can get you over the crush is you yourself. And in my opinion only by truly accepting that you won't be having a relationship together even though she will always be special to you (some part of the crush will always remain I think, give it a place in your heart and don't let it take over your life). But what was the conversation between her and your friend about? Did they talk about how you are still not over the crush? Or just about that you wanted them to become friends again?
I wouldn't mind hearing your story, that is if you want to share it. Well there conversation from what he told me, he just said "do you remember Jon?" and she came right out and told him that she remembers me expressing my feelings to her and how she thought it was in my best interest to stop talking. That was all he told me, I don't know if anything else was said because he stopped talking to me.
That is not very much indeed. Perhaps that is also one of the reasons you are having these dreams. You don't like the fact that you are not talking to eachother. But she did speak to one of your friends, although you don't seem to get a grip on how she feels about this situation through this friend. Remember that in your dream they were walking up the stairs. This might stand for a journey to knowledge and new insights, your friend and the girl walked up the stairs, talking, but you don't seem to be able to reach the top of the stairs, while they do. About my situation, well that's a long (and strange) story. To keep to the main points, last september I fell in love with a boy. It really was love at first sight. But of course I had been in love before (although never so bad) and I had experienced people falling in love with me, while I didn't share those feelings. So although I hoped much of it, I already half expected a rejection within weeks. But it didn't come. Ok, I didn't dare to speak of my feelings in the beginning, but I did my best to hint that I was interested as much as I could, and I now know that he indeed already in september was aware that I liked him very much. Yet the only thing that happened was that he became very nervous (and at times afraid of me), which made me even more nervous around him than I already was. At the beginning of october I started to suspect something and I really had to push him into confessing that he had a boyfriend (I tried two times earlier, but then he tactically avoided the subject). At this point he became even more nervous. We spent a lot of time together in october (a 3-week field trip) which was very stressful, and after a miraculously coincidental meeting we had a week after the trip, I finally pushed him into talking to me about the subject online (via chat). Then he denied to have any feelings for me. So, ok, I accepted it and tried to get over the crush, but at the same time (during november) I got some strange messages via FB. So I was thinking, is he playing games with me or what? At the beginning of december I said I wanted to talk to him in person about this. He was nervous as hell during that conversation, and at the beginning I could see the fear in his eyes. But he, again, denied to have any feelings for me, and moreover he didn't know anything about those messages and he probably thought I was crazy when I started about them. Then he mailed me that he would remove me from his FB (not because he didn't like me, but because that was in both our best interests, and because 'people' had been telling him to do so). I came to the conclusion, that although these messages came from his FB-profile, that doesn't necessarily mean he was the one who sent them. It must have been his BF, telling him to remove me from FB if I kept acting strange, and at the same time sending me confusing messages via his FB-profile. Now I even found out that he (the boyfriend) deleted almost every evidence of my existence on his profile afterwards, even group photo's from the field trip on which I accidentally also stood. Well ok, I accepted this loss and decided to move on with my life. Now we only see eachother now and then, but not often. The only big problem is that, reviewing the whole story (and there's much more to it), I can only conclude that he díd have feelings for me (and his BF knows it), although he never wanted to get involved with me and leave his stable relationship. And besides that he keeps popping up in my dreams (every single night until christmas, and even afterwards now and then) in vivid ways that make absolutely clear that he loves me. Which I find strange because every time I was in love before (with someone that didn't return the feelings) he never even appeared in my dreams. And now he doesn't only appear in my dreams to show me our difficult relationship during the last months, or to tell me he cares about me but doesn't share the feeling. No, in my dreams, it is made very clear that he loves me, that we have to solve some mysteries of life together, that he has lead me onto a sidetrack, and even (when I really accepted that he didn't have any feelings for me in december) came to me and said clearly: ''Sorry, I lied to you about my feelings'' while his BF was standing in the background. Well it just irates me. I know I can come over a crush, have done it several times before, but all that has happened and especially my dreams just won't let me.
Journey to knowledge and new insights you say? But why would that message be in a dream about my crush? Well at least you get to talk him every so often, because at the end of the day you have to be happy with that. And I can see how dreaming of him almost all the time is weird, especially the messages he gives you in them. And since you brought up the fact that he removed every existence of you from his FB profile, I don't ever recall if my crush removed all my wall posts from her profile or not. Yeah the posts were minor, but it's still proof that we talked at one point.
''Journey to knowledge and new insights'' is a bit exaggerated I think. It is just the general meaning I think stairs have in (my) dreams. But if your friend and your crush talked together it always gives them new insights, however small they may be. I'm not sure how that talk relates to your not-talking relationship with the girl. Do you have any other dreams about this whole situation? I have many of them. Indeed, not complaining there, and even the dreams I have are no punishment. Just that they have such a different message then what he said to me, and what I rationally can conclude about the situation lies somewhere in between. I know he has feelings for me, but won't be with me, he said he hasn't got any feelings for me (although he acts differently) and my dreams say he loves me and eventually wants to be with me. So I am feeling very confused all the time :S Just one correction: I know it is not him, that deleted every existence of me from his wall. That would absolutely make no sense even considering the conversation we had in december. Since I know his boyfried messaged me through his (my crush's) FB, I am quite sure that it is the boyfriend that deleted every post on the wall that I commented upon, or even just liked, even if it was someone else who posted it. Just one thing remains, I liked one of his profile photo's, and that photo isn't removed. Well surely because people would notice if a profile photo suddenly would disappear. As far as I'm concerned this was just an act of extreme jealousy. I wasn't a threat anymore (if I've ever been one in the first place) because he schemed me out of my crush's FB, but still that wasn't enough.
Well I have had a few dreams about her over the past year. There's one where she's walking on crutches into a library but she doesn't notice me as she enters it. Ain't really much to explain in that dream. That one was back in january of this year I believe. And this dream I haven't been able to forget which I had around July/August (I can't remember which month) of 2009. I'm walking in my college with my buddy(don't remember who he was) and I had to go back to class get my bag. So me and my buddy are walking out the class and she walks in and smiles at me, then she hugs me for no reason, then for no reason at all she kisses me on the lips then smiles. That's really the only other dreams I can remember off hand about her, the rest are posted on a forum that's currently shut down. And the two dreams me and you were talking about are the most recent ones. And I agree with you about your case, sounded like his boyfriend got jealous of you and tried to remove you. You can remove the photos, letters, and a friendship but you can never remove the feelings.
Hmm... so you had the 'kissing' dream in July/August? But you weren't talking for many months already by then or am I wrong? With that background this dream is kind of interesting I think. Were your feelings for her flaring up again in the summer? Was there any contact at all between you during that time? How did you feel in that dream? Happy?
We stopped talking in February and I haven't talked to her or sent her a message until I tried sending her one message(which was the only one of that year) around early June, but her BF got mad at me and ended that. And I didn't really think of her much during the time of the kissing dream. It just kinda happened. In the dream I was happy and shocked, because right after the kiss I looked back at my buddy with a baffled look. Heck, when I woke up I was baffled and beside myself for the entire day. How does that dream make it kind of interesting?
