I'm going to see Alice in theaters on shrooms.

Doing too many drugs and having a horrible experience doesn't make you drug morality police while you get over your trauma. Pot calling the kettle black.

 

Agreed. There isn't a correct way to trip or an incorrect way to trip.

 

Psychedelics have a way of giving people the delusion they lost their ego... when in reality, their ego is 100x larger...

Keep your basement shaman prophecies to yourself since nobody asked.

 

I didn't know if the other person was actually into shamanism and shit, I thought they just meant to take psychedelics seriously and to respect them.

Isn't that what we all believe in?

 

Shamanistic or not, it was pretentious. I respect mushrooms very much. I just do not see them as a sacrament. They are a drug. The delusion that mushrooms or acid are the path to peace and understanding is a little too tim leary for me to buy.

Look what happened after the 60's. And to do that just look around you. No one learned shit, they just felt like they did. There are no drugs you can take that will keep you from lying to yourself. Sorry.

Sure, in the right hands they can be a tool for self improvement. I use them partly for that. But mostly I just want to feel something beautiful without over thinking it or putting it on a pedestal. That other poster as right about the ego thing, a lot of trippers are ridiculously pretentious.

 

gee thanks for helping the cause for one day legalizing psychadelics.

 

Well, tuning in, turning on, and dropping out isn't any better at legalizing.

 

if you actually think that leary and co's attitude towards these psychedelics is in any way helpful to them one day becoming legal you fail at understanding the situation.

the same reason why they are illegal is the same reason why i don't like leary and them too much; mysticism. Myth. DEA creating myths about LSD is no worse than tim leary creating myths about lsd. both are misinformation. let us mature finally. it is so late. let us finally hold these things in our hands without fables and worship. let us appraise these molecules as intelligent humans. the solution to breaking the stories of 'harmful lsd' is not by worshiping lsd in the opposite manner. you can feel that way in your heart but don't make a religion out of a molecule, that path does not lead where you think, in terms of legalization.

 

Respect.

 

I'm not on a high horse. just tellin' you like it is. why don't you listen for a change instead of being defensive.

been around this mushroom for a long time man. and one thing i've seen is that they are not a "toy" for your hippie fucking enjoyment. go take acid or ecstacy or something for that.

Obviously there is something to the thousands of years of traditional context built up surrounding this sacrament. Because as you can see, in places like the netherlands unregulated mushrooms made people jump off of bridges and shit. Theres no proper context in your selfish indulgence for fun or intellectual gratification. Its all out of some kind of trip seeking thrill search. To buy a trip for a few hours to fill the gaping spiritual VOID that western society has left you.

When I eat mushrooms It's to ask for my life. Its to ask to show me what i need to see. Because without this mushroom man..... I would be lost. And that is the truth. treat this medicine with respect. If you use it as a toy, you will become a toy yourself and when the medicine gets it's turn to play its never pleasant.

how naiive.

really, so tell me about the girl in amsterdam who jumped off a bridge on shrooms? why was her way correct?

Maybe we could say that rather than a right way and a wrong way there is:

a way to ingest that leads to the benefit of OTHERS for a greater good.

a way to ingest that leads to selfish fulfillment of our own desires that leads us further into delusion, suffering. ect.

 

agreed.
I think they're something amazing that we can live without. Just like we can get strong without a gym, we can eat vegetables without a garden..

People definitely need to recognize that it's a drug, but what annoys me the most is when people don't say marijuana is a drug.

 

When I used to use drugs I abused them. Including mushrooms quite a few times, when I ate them I just wanted to escape because I hated myself. It was only "fun" the first time. Every mushroom trip after that made me extremely depressed. I like me today, I stick with broccoli trips, I have to watch myself in that respect though as well. A few months back I was eating loads of broccoli and it made my body react horribly, I'd be on the bathroom floor in pain for a couple hours, twice I was there so long I fell asleep. I laid off for a few weeks, and now I enjoy a nice healthy dose everyday again!

 

I'll repeat, there is no drug that can make a human being stop lying to themselves.

And I'm not a hippie, so you just continue casting down your judgmental 'insight' from that ivory tower of enlightenment. If mushrooms taught you such humility and insight you really don't show it.

 

are u trying to be funny?

 

*The Shaman has spoken*

 

No, it is the truth. I used to abuse substances, didn't like what they did to me. Now I don't anymore. I guess what I was saying was when I used mushrooms, I used them to escape from reality cause I hated it and in turn it effected me negatively.
I did get sick from eating too much broccoli though. Moderation is key, now I can enjoy a healthy dose everyday.

 

do i look like i'm from tunguska?

you throw around the term shaman like it applies to anyone who uses mushrooms in a sacred context. Stupid hippies and their damn new age crap. You all have totally bastardized the term that doesn't even come from your own language.

a shaman is healer from tunguska. I'm not a shaman. I'm nobody. Im just a guy that eats this medicine with respect.

mushrooms are not a path to peace and understanding. They are not for enlightenment.
Only hippies look for that through the mushroom.

And you, i guess it's a drug for you. A selfish indulgence. A waste.
Well fine call it what you like.

I would be the one lying to myself, were i thinking that one of the most powerful conduits for communication with nature, is just another drug for personal hedonism and watching movies.

 

I got some crazy fact: that girl in amsterdam wasn't on shrooms at all. Her blood got tested and all and apparently she was confused enough with out them. Just heard it on the news here (netherlands) last week.

Also, of course there are wrong ways to use shrooms but that doesn't mean there is just one right way or mindset to have a good trip. Some people are looking for a fun time and if they're not total idiots they will have a really fun time indeed and there's no harm done at all.

 

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Get over yourself. I don't use mushrooms for hedonism, you're just on some ego trip.

And I have no need to justify my actions and motivations to people who act so pompous.

 

Omacatl calls me a "new age hippie" while he communicates with nature through psychedelic mushrooms. Isn't that a bit ironic?

I don't use mushrooms for recreation either, but at the same time I don't get on the internet and tell people I'm right and you're wrong for how I use them. Instead, I keep my mushrooms to myself.

Another oxymoron: talking about "respecting the mushroom" in an, interpreted to be, patronizing tone. I find that disrespectful to the fungus, but who am I to judge?