Any other christians use psychedelic drugs / herb within their walk?

Just curious if there are other christians here who also use herb and/or psychedelics to help them with their walk with Christ?

I'm just starting to explore this realm with psychedelic drug use and was given the powerful message that Christ would travel through ANY medium to reach us, including sobriety. Was amazed at the clarity of feeling, at being judged cleanly and with a loving eye.

I smoke herb to relax and open my mind to the greater reality of all of us being sacred souls on a path towards God.

The psychs though ... the last trip just cut me to pieces, in the most loving and amazing way, and really rebuilt my positioning and understanding of forgiveness and redemption.

It was like for the first time I felt truth of my remorse and could honestly cry out to God for redemption, for forgiveness, to use me for HIS good, to be a tool for His cause.

wowser.

(and yes I use His in reference to God, who while neither male nor female expresses itself to me through the son Jesus, a male figure. Maybe I've been brainwashed, maybe God just always appears in masculine form to me because it's what I understand... who knows!)

 

BUMP! I was going to ask this, too. Haven't taken acid yet, but very interested. I've been wanting to do it for more than a year.

And His is used to refer to Him, but God is as much "male" as "female".

 

I was a christian when I had my first major psychedelic experience. It was one of the greatest experiences of my life and my views on religious were completely changed. The mushrooms left me with a sense that ignorance is never an excuse for knowing the truth and to always question everything, especially religion. Seeing and finding so many holes in religion in general, psychedelics have opened a whole new host of questions for me. Now im a deist, because science has the proof where religion does not, but I can see Gods power in the development of life and the fibonacci sequence.

 

Psychedelic Christianity? rawk on, I can support that.

 

When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place, and suddenly a sound came from heaven like the rush of a mighty wind and it filled the sound of the place they were sitting, and there appeared to them tongues as of fire, distributed and resting on each one of them, and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues, as the spirit gave them utterance.

Sounds like an ergot party to me.

 

Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn

Everybody's building ships and boats
Some are building monuments, others are jotting down notes
Everybody's in despair, every girl and boy
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here
Everybody's gonna jump for joy

Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn

I like to go just like the rest, I like my sugar sweet
But jumping queues and makin' haste, just ain't my cup of meat
Everyone's beneath the trees, feedin' pigeons on a limb
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here
All the pigeons gonna run to him

Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn

Let me do what I wanna do, I can't decide 'em all
Just tell me where to put 'em and I'll tell you who to call
Nobody can get no sleep, there's someone on everyone's toes
But when Quinn the Eskimo gets here
Everybody's gonna wanna doze

Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the Mighty Quinn

 

I found that after smoking herb for so long and thinking I had already known God made it easy to compare when I actually accepted Jesus as my savior and stopped smoking herb without a single urge to be an indication that I can love and be peaceful without any medication at all.

 

Same here. I had a vision of Christ dying on the cross when I tripped. Then out of his dead body vines and flowers started growing. I guess that would symbolize new life. Pretty weird, but very powerful and beautiful.

 

I've also visualized christ on acid. I'm not a christian. It was pretty cool, I also saw a baby I thought represented him on 2cb. All powerful and symbolic.

 

that sounds awesome.

 

The last few trips have really dissolved a lot of BS I've been holding onto like dogma and such, realized how I'm simply here to be the manifestation of Christ within, which is Love. The Bible verses and arguing about heaven and hell and sin and redemption? Eh, I don't know if I really even want to go there anymore with people. Do your thing, you know, do your thing and let it be right and good.

I'll take it up with people doing wickedness around me just to let them know what's up, but I think anyone would. I'm a pretty loose judge of that, but I know wrong when I see it. Of course if someone is creating destruction in their life I'm a be like "Um, no". Just to let them know there is a better way.

The more psychedelic drugs I eat, the more it makes me fall OUT of love with the Church and in Love with GOD. Heresy, I'm sure, but maybe it's just a sign that I need to do my own thing for a while, help people in ways the church will never understand to do.

I've only tripped twice in the last 2 months and it's basically completely opened me up, i've changed my eating habits to be more in line with my spiritual beliefs, and feel like I need to get to work being of service to others in the best way possible.

... But hmmm... I'll have to start poking around more. I suspect though that many Christians who dabble heavy enough in psychedelics move away from organized churches, as I'm yet to find one that passes the acid test.

Maybe I just need to look deeper, but they all seem to emphasize worshiping Christ instead of BEING Christ, you know? Being a living representation of Christ within, being Love. That's what it's about. And I mean it in as many ways as possible. Don't kill animals, don't buy things created in sweatshops, don't cause harm on others from your practices if at all possible. If something does cause harm, cut it out. If you can't completely, then reduce as much as you possibly can.

Serve your fellow being. Give away your extra money. Tread lightly. Don't collect up treasures. Use what you have and what you earn as a tool to do more good on this earth.

That kind of ethos is what psychedelic Christianity looks like to me

Some people hate on the herb, but I'm actually moving to CA to become a caregiver for cancer and AIDS patients, so it's kind of what I know. I want to provide medicine for truly sick people as well as offer spiritual consul to those who want it. I read about all religions, so I can talk Buddhism with Buddhists and Christianity with Christians. Need to do my reading on Islam, soon enough.

Anyway, have a great night!

 

I love you! Everything to your name, TheChangingTide.

So I see Christians who dabble in psychedelics begin to see some follies of organized religion. The way I've always seen the idea of Christianity is what you mentioned. Not necessarily worshiping Christ but realizing it's a story emphasizing the embodiment of god within us all.

There was this girl I was involved with, she didn't use psychedelics and was a very devout christian. We always wound up in arguments. I didn't like that she exemplified the idea that Christianity is the one and only true religion with the only real god and all others are faux. Likewise we argued whether or not Christ was a worship symbol or the representation of man. She claimed that Christ was someone we could never be. That bothers me, somehow many people used Christianity as a crutch for continuation of a corrupted mindset. Although I will mention in her honor that she was not like that, which made the least sense to me, because she could be an example of god embodied. I guess not though when your outlook lowers the spiritual grade of non believers. A good example of the superficial ego.

 

LOL, thanks for the encouragement. It is good to hear though when you're lining things up in a good way. I'm in total agreement that the Bible really does reference God within. I mean, Christ is talking again and again about The Kingdom of God is at hand, and yet everyone is running around acting like it's all for some afterlife. Yowsers, it could just be that it's literally ALL RIGHT NOW. I don't know, these are all things I'm still new to exploring in, but that's the general feeling.

It feels kind of weird though. Stepping out on a limb that says "Yes, I believe in God and Christ, but I respect all paths" - Is that what the Unitarian church is about?

Because there really isn't any connection with a lot of the stuff going on by other Christians, you know ministry just to minister? that seems almost cruel to me. Don't go tell a man that to pray to Christ will save his eternal soul. Go teach him how to fish and help him build his house and give him a hug on your way out the door and continue on. Because I guarantee people get more out of being shown love than any words about how any supernatural being that they aren't sure how to connect with loves them.

I went to church sporadically for a few years and never really got it. Then my wife came and loved me through some really ugly alcoholism stuff, and finally I'm starting to wake up. I mean, I was raised in a christian home but really never felt connected either to God, myself, or those around me. Likely the embodiment at one time of dysfunctional male energy with a total lack of feminine balance. Never learned what it was to be whole, always macho bravado and stance.

Call it odd, since eating drugs and hanging out on here talking to folks and working on prayer and diet, I'm starting to feel alive again. Don't think I could ask for anything more.

This place, for all it's craziness has a LOT of really good people out there doing their thing, and I respect that everyday.

 

Dude, right on. That filled me with happiness. I'm so glad to hear that. I too have found something in my life that broke me through confusion. It is nothing that can be named. But I can feel brightness to come.

 

Christ is the truth about you.

 

on shrooms i came to accept that the government is the beast....at least for me...

 

Absolutely. There's lots of parallels one can draw.

I always think that if Christ was here today he'd probably walk into some temples and freak out in the same way he did back in his day.

The government, the beast... hmm... especially as we work more and more towards a central ruling government.

I think I need to read Revelations a few times before my next trip, really soak in the imagery...

 

I've seen a lot of people come to that same conclusion on shrooms alone. One kid we sold an 8th to came back with this multi page paper rant on the government.

 

LOL. Everytime I trip at some point during the trip will come the whole "Why they got to stomp on the little guy?" thought thread... It's so funny too because when I'm tripping i'll get SOOOO worked up about it. pacing the living room throwing out "damn the man"s while taking bong hits at 4 am... lolz.

But seriously, always bugs me that it's the evil folks running the world while a lot of people trying to do good are just ignored, marginalized, arrested, etc. I mean, why are they arresting Mr Pot Head over there who isn't doing a thing but then they're still serving up booze in bars and sending people to drive home drunk... madness out there...

The world is wacky, governments and all.

 

The government has been corrupted by the devil. Like any real Christian u can continue to have faith in the word, organize and hopefully do something to bring the spirit into the mix and fix some things. Most of all stay focused on your soul and the coming of Christ, the rest is not nearly as serious as we make it out to be. People get persecuted on a daily basis for no reason at all, it is sad but that be the life of a man with the devil in their life trying to do the leading. Don't be fooled.