Voltaire

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  1. SunFree

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    On religion...

    "If God made it, God will sustain it without you."

    " . . . they sustain through executioners the religion of a God whom executioners have put to death and who taught only gentleness and patience."

    How ironically sublime.
     
  2. Frog_On_Ice

    Frog_On_Ice Watercolor Paradise

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    wowwwww is all I can say; you have to read it a couple of times, man that just left me awestruck, what a thought........ :) can I ask what attracted you to this quote or did you say it?
     
  3. Orsino2

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    I really got the same exact feeling. It's such a simple thought yet so many complex things can be derived from this concept.
     
  4. SunFree

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    Now discuss some philosophy, bitches.
     
  5. OSF

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    voltaire said that? ... bastard.
     
  6. blindhobosam

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    here's a good question:

    "why?"
     
  7. blindhobosam

    blindhobosam The Legend

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    apparently not phylisophical enough
     
  8. OSF

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    Does anyone know what voltaire was talking about?
     
  9. borut16

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    In these two quotes or basically what he was all about?
    Voltaire is an interesting person, true.
    Phylosophy is an interesting thing, too...just reading the book i've borrowed yesterday (Basics of Philosophy Through Time)

    love,
    b
     
  10. Orsino2

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    Wow, your image is so bright it's making me feel like convulsions are coming on.
     
  11. OSF

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    sex pistols fan?

    Voltaire was defending his Deism.

    He believed in God, but not in religiosity.
     
  12. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    'Men will always be mad, and those who think they can cure it are the maddest of all.' Voltaire

    He allegedly was a coffeeholic, 40 cups a day.
     
  13. SunFree

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    I always liked myself, "A sense of humor is the only thing that keeps intelligent people from hanging themselves."
     
  14. borut16

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    Not me, I just have this sig to provocate some of the silly hippies.

    Well, Voltaire is an interesting person, that's so true.

    love,
    b
     
  15. moonydancer

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    I like Voltaire! I'm reading Zadig right now, with school, and we're studying all the metaphore he used to critisise the monarchy, and also end some conflicts he had with other nobles! hehe.... read that book, Zadig, it's a good satire about monarchy, and totalitarian (sp?:p) governements.

    When you read some Voltaire, you've got to remember the context, 1730/1789, just before the french revolution.... what we call the "century of light"... Do you say that in english?:p

    kissouilles
    moony
     
  16. OSF

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    Funny about Voltaire, he did criticise monarchs and aristocrats, but he couldn't have lived more like one. His home was the theatre, his mistress was titled, and, of course, his correspondents with certain monarchs were infamous.

    Odd, eh?

    What is even better is that Voltaire did not suppose that a democracy should be had in stead of monarchs. The common folk, he would say, were way too stupid for that to work.

    Ahh, the enlightenment. I wish I was there.
     
  17. Orsino2

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    I believe the past is outdated but without the past there's no foundation for the future.
     
  18. OSF

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    Outdated? In what sense?

    Voltaire had it right. We have it wrong.
     
  19. Orsino2

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    Voltaire had it right - exactly... he had it right, but those were different times... his ideals are merely a foundation.
     
  20. OSF

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    A fairly universal foundation to something better.

    Regardless of how things were/are working at the time, I would think.

    Do you mean to suggest that his 'foundations' were based on the time period? Or that such foundations are rendered useless because of the state of our state?
     
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