Rehab Plan setback

Hey people,
I've been trying to stop using opiates for about a week and a half now. I tried cold turkey, but didn't like being dopesick (duh), so I've neen taking 2 10mg percs 2, sometimes 3 times a day. My plan was to taper down as much as possible and then stop. I've been staying away from my dealer and stocked up on perc 10's to help with the taper. Before this decrease I was railing 80-160mg OC a day and smoking the occasional tar. Well, I had been doing well until today, while clearing out old stash boxes, I found a 80mg OC. I thought about it for a second, then shaved and railed half of it. I feel guilty, like I let myself down. I also, however, feel really good for a change. It's also nice to know that railing 40mg's can get me high again.
I guess what I'm saying is I'm having a hard time quitting and can't talk to anyone in my life about this. So, here I am on this forum. My dabbling has become a habit again and I could use some support.

 

Hey don't worry about it everyone has a hard time quitting. The important thing is that you're trying to quit. Eventually you'll get it so don't be too hard on yourself before then.

 

Hey man stick with it. Flush the other half down the toilet and get rid of your hose clamp. You need to be strong willed and keep yourself mentally and physically away from this shit. You can do this. You're post here shows that you realized you've messed up, but you have the opportunity to get better from here on out. You just need to utilize this opportunity to become stronger.


Remember, every day you have a multitude of decisions to make. The only thing you ever really need to do to get off of opiates, is stop taking them. We all know this is harder said than done, however its true. When tempted, you really just need to think about the options you have, and choose the better option. You can think of it like this:


On one hand, you can do the drug - it'll feel good, but it wont feel good for very long, and fuck, you'll probably end up feeling like shit for even longer than the drug had you feeling good. You were trying to get clean and now you've effectively fucked yourself.

On the other hand, you can destroy (flush it down the terlet) the drug - You'll no longer be tempted to take the drug, and you wont even have the option to do so if you destroy it. Best of all, after you get rid of that shit you can consider yourself one step closer to being clean; one more battle on the road to winning the war. And upon this realization endorphins will release in your body and you'll get a natural high that will have you'll feeling damn fucking good about that fact that for once, you were able to avoid getting high, and now you're one step closer to getting that monkey off your back.


PM me if you need someone to talk to bro.

 

Thanks for the support guys. I really appreciate it. I finished the 80 I found yesterday and went on to chase the buzz the rest of the day. A little setback, but I'm going to keep trying. It's now 10:20am, and the last time I used was about 15 hours ago. I'm going to try to take 2 10mg percs now (starting to have tears a lot and getting jittery), and then try to wait until tonight. I plan to take 2 more before I go to sleep because I hate RLS kicking. The depression is by far the worst symptom. Staying positive has become such a chemical response. Anyways, thanks for the kind words. they are really appreciated, and wish me luck.

 

good luck. benzos/alcohol/weed is an alright combo to make things a little better

 

The slower the taper the greater chance of success. If you railed 160mg's of OC per day I would rail 10mg's less each week. A major problem when quitting is the person wants to be clean 'right now' and that leads to failure.

 

Thanks Nikolai. Actually my biggest fear right now is that I'll start fiending and, instead of taking 1 or 2 percocets to get straight, I'll go to my dealers house and get lit up on 80's. I'm just tryin to take the edge off the next few days. Thank you all for your responses. You have no idea how much it means to me that I don't have to feel alone through this sh*t.

 

friends, music, and ADVENTURING!

start urban adventuring instead of doing opiates...one thing that helped me quit oc was being more active and going out into the world!

 

While I was only up to 45-60mg a day, I know how you feel. I was strung out for a month straight and got to the point where railing 30mg didn't do much of anything. I basically quit cold turkey and it was hell for a few days. I'm just now starting to feel normal. The first few days without any opiates in your system are rough but don't lose hope. I stopped talking to my dealer and just got through it the hard way. Good luck.

 

well, personally i just got out of rehab. i probably shouldnt even be on this forum right now haha. but i found myself just curiously searching threw here and came upon this thread....now ive been going to NA, got 32 days clean...the whole 9. but boy do i miss opiates! bangin dilaudid, bangin dope, ahhh it is so nice. but anyway i guess my point is if you cant stop on your own maybe you should think about going to rehab. for me i know what my preconceived notions of rehab were and what i experienced were 2 completely different things. so give it a shot, if you dont like it you can leave at anytime.

 

Thanks for the encouragement. It really helps. So, the taperdown is going better. I'm now taking 80mg/day, with 2 perc's if needed in between. Next week, I'm going to try to go to 60/day by taking 20 in the morning, 20 in the afternoon, and 20 before bed. I'm going to keep the '2 percs as needed'. I hope to get to 20mg/day before quitting and My plan is to do this over a month-6 weeks. Again, thank you all so much for your encouragement. It's not logical, but sometimes it really feels like I'm the only one going through this. Weird. anyways, what I'm trying to say is thanks for writing and reminding me that others have gone through this and that it is better being clean.

 

Tapering will hurt a lot less than cold turkey. Good luck.

 

Hey all, Its been a few weeks and I'm close to getting off. I've been clean the past 2 days, except for 1 perc 10 at night so I can sleep. Quick question: will this 10mg at night prolong my withdrawls? The past 2 days I've felt like crap. Hard to eat, hard to sleep, hard to do anything. Sweats, chills, etc. When will this end? I just want to feel normal again. If anyone can answer the above question, I'd appreciate it.

 

Hurry up dude I kicked heroin in half the time its taking you.

Get rid of the fuckin opiates. Clean the past two days? How much did you take 3 days ago? 4? 5?

I stepped down off a 6-bag a day heroin habit by going cold turkey for 3 days, then took 15 mg oxycodone one night I was pukin and feeling really bad, then a vicodin 10mg the next day. I've been clean and feeling great for 12 days since.

If you want to get off the opiates, then get off and stop coming back.

 

dig doug, how did you deal with not sleeping. I can't get to sleep. Tonight I ate 15mg of percoset and 3 valium and could not sleep even a wink. I'm agitated and feel like I need to break something. BTW, it's 5am on the west coast. I have no more opiates.

 

weed helps with sleep, as does excercise and alcohol.

Its much easier to quit if you have a reason to, like a girl or school or w/e.

You NEED something to occupy the time that opiates used to. You have to change your lifestlyle, if you do the same things you did on OC while sober, you have gone no where.

 

Keep it up. You also may need one of those extra 10mg perc's everyday because a drop from 80mg to 60mg is pretty big, a 25% dropoff. I worry if you then drop from 60 to 40 that things could really catch up to you. The way you already feel agitated and cant sleep sound like semi-bad WD. Look at your plan and make sure youre not dropping too much too quickly. Of course if obtaining the opiates is a problem then you dont have much choice. Some drugs can help WD, benzos mostly. Other drugs can help some, muscle relaxers like soma or flexeril, also meds like neurontin, tegretol, and lyrica. Those can help a little bit.

 

you could go from 80mg a day to 30mg a day with no withdrawl, you wouldent be high but you wouldent feel sick. you can taper much faster than you think.

 

I'm clean of opiates 60 days here from a 300+ mg 5 yr habit. The benzo's... taper those bad boys. The opiates. If you wanna stop, just C/T em'. Eat 10mg a day and you're doing nothing but prolonging that shit. Did I feel like I wanted to die when I c/t'd? Fuck yeah I did! Took me almost a month to feel 99% normal (no one is 100% normal)

RLS sucks but no sleep? Fuck that... tough it out, sleep when your dead.

If you want support, PM me. I can link you to another forum where others are wanting to quit as well. Some are clean and some are struggling to quit. The forum helped me.

This forum isn't for quiters. I read here now to amuse myself and to remind myself of what a dumbass I was. Am I Mr. goodytwoshoes? Fuck no, I just found other ways to get that euphoric feeling. Fucking life itself!

 

To everyone asking this guy to quit cold turkey, remember how painful your experience was. Cold turkey is definitely no fun it can absolutely knock you out for days or weeks. If OP has to function in life then tapering is his best solution. I will agree though that he can't taper forever.

OP, at some point you need to set a date where your body will be free from opiates for a long period of time (whether or not you plan on ever using recreationally again is up to you). That agitated feeling you have right now is normal. I'd really recommend smoking some weed. The benzos help with a lot of the withdrawls but it is another pill.

It sounds like things are going well, best of luck to ya.