Interesting Question about Salvia

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by Techno Overlord, Mar 7, 2010.

  1. Techno Overlord

    Techno Overlord Member

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    If you can pick apart your dreams, and find out what they mean, can you pick apart your salvia trips, and find out what they mean as well?
     
  2. Magical mystery tourguide

    Magical mystery tourguide Senior Member

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    meh i think most dream interpreting is too new age.
     
  3. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    try it. and if the interpretations are close as if a dream, then maybe. but i would think not because dreams are self-made. idk tho. If you get wacky random stuff different times then maybe
     
  4. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    absolutely your salvia expiriences will reflect your psyche. how could they not? any way you look at it they do...
    if they are soley mind generating expiriences then you are seeing yourself organized in a new ways you dont ordinarily observe yourself. whatever imput you hold in your mind is manifesting in the psychedelic expirience.
    or if these expiriences are a communion with a plant or natural essence or some kind of external force then the only way communion would possible would be through the symbolism of your own psyche, just like it is when meeting any other form of conciousness.
    or maybe its both (these ideas arent nessesarily conflicting imo)

    absolutely everything reflects yourself.
     
  5. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    yeah i agree, cuz unconsciousness is portrayed through psychedelics. but i would think that it isn't as pure as the dreaming state because of external stimuli along with your body's response. and i don't agree with everything reflects yourself.
    and Techno_overlord had another thread about doing 10x, but to tap into such unconsciousness you might have to do more x's and more uses. And another thing to think about is the ability to think of concepts like the self, and when you can't have those it doesn't show a grand scheme. Idk if psychedelics do justice as good. But I do think it does explore some unconsciousness but on a smaller scale. Also if the second time he smoked salvia he didn't even remember it, then hahaha.
     
  6. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

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    would you be willing to give an example of somthing that dosent reflect self?
    everything we see or expirience is processed through our personal filters. everything is self reflecting...
     
  7. Cleansedreality

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    You could pick apart your Salvia trip like it was a dream. However, I think what you experience on Salvia is more than a dream.

    A dream can be interpreted because it is some of your own subconscious thoughts presenting themselves while you sleep and as your brain produces natural DMT. Salvia is a conscious experience while you are in an alert state that can do a number of things depending on your goals for the outcome of your trip...

    For me, salvia sends me flying through my potential dimensions of consciousness and I learn a lot about myself reflecting on my experiences after.
     
  8. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    a brick. a coin. a spoon. galaxies. carrots. vegetation. almost anything besides literally a mirror, and personality.
    I'd agree that the self reflects everything but not the other way around
    Perception is what we get from our senses, but that makes us beings of reflection. not solid things in a world of reflections.
    kinda relates to time. Even though you may feel time has flown by, the clock being constant says otherwise.
     
  9. sklrXD

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    so far i havent had any dreams that i remember at all after smoking the pure leaf
     
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