Police bullying me, are they lying? plz read!

By your own logic this can't happen, he said she said in regards to what someone saw isn't enough for an arrest warrant, which you would need in this case. And having the police hate you in a small town is not a good idea either.

Point is you can say you don't know anything, but what if someone does say you know something. They can't put a warrant out, but they can subpoena you for trial, and it's a lot worse to lie in court then to the police. Saying I don't know anything is a lot more believable then "fuck off I'm not talking to you". Like I said, cops aren't going to go away because you don't want to talk to them. And charging someone as a co-conspirator would in fact be pretty easy. Take the scared little dipshit who did burn down the bleachers
"Kid, look, we know Chris92 helped you with this, give us him, and we'll lessen your charges"
"Zoinks scoob!, I don't want to go to jail or court, yea he helped me!"
*judge signs warrant, police arrest Chris92, he proves where he was but still has to deal with getting arrested*

 

He precludes himself from this situation by not talking voluntarily.

Police can still arrest you on the spot for making what they deem are false statements to the police. They could use the statements of other people that disagree with your statements (and other evidence that they have that you may not even know about) as probable cause that you made false statements to them. An arrest warrant isn't needed if they have probable cause.

Consider what happens later in court when person A who told person B about the crime testifies under oath that they did. How will the other person B defend himself? He would have to try to deny it in court (which may involve making more lies to cover one up), argue the other person is lying, or end up admitting that he made false statements to the police. (Martha Stewart didn't get convicted of the original charges but rather of lying to investigators).

As someone else here said, in the beginning don't talk and get a lawyer.

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Something like that can happen, but that situation isn't a result of Chris not talking to the police voluntarily in the beginning. If there is no evidence for him being a co-conspirator, it won't hold up in court.

It's frustrating for an innocent person to get arrested based on a lie from someone who is guilty and who was tricked or intimidated by the police into lying. It's far worse to incriminate yourself by talking voluntarily and then getting arrested anyway and having to defend yourself even more.

What can hold up in court is if he actually lied to the police or investigators about the crime as a result of talking loose and if there are statements from people and other evidence that back up the fact that he lied. He avoids this by not talking and making mistakes like this in the beginning.

Another scenario is that he knew about a crime and didn't report it, which itself can be considered a crime. If you voluntarily tell the police that you knew about it and didn't report it, you are potentially incriminating yourself.

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You can testify, just lie. I love lying to the police. Lying to the judge is even better. It gets me hard.

 

How do we know you're not lying to us right now?


(That's impossible)
And yet it happened!!!



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they won't waste their time and case calling on you to testify based on what you said. my question is why were they coming after you originally, and they were either bluffing or they have something else on you. could be you are linked to the suspect, or witness(es) saw you at the time of the incident. this swim shit is too vague, and so is just stating "the detective knows swim knows". too much to speculate based on what was posted here

 

you have no rights child.

 

Quoted for emphasis.

 

then you have no grounding in reality.

 

Well if some parasite from Levittown, NY decides to call the cops it won’t require much more information because they already have your name Chris (I assume is short for Christopher) your location, and your age

Hotwater

 

QFT

The way you respond to a cop when they talk to you, determines everything about what follows...

Sticking to a simple line of "I don't know", "I don't recall", "Not that I can remember", is always the best path.

Here... I'll let an 'expert' demonstrate;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IBvZlRqOTw"]YouTube- Total Recall

 

You think people really have rights that don't come with a price tag?

Police do whatever the fuck they want. As long as they don't execute a cuffed minority point blank on camera ( it happened) they generally get away with it to.

 

everyone has rights. I hate most cops and realize they act outside of the law a lot. and my professional goals include helping to stop this.

the reason cops get away with doing whatever the fuck they want is because 1) they bank on the fact that most citizens do not know and assert their constitutional rights, and 2) most people can't afford competent counsel

 

and 3) in court a cops word is good as law

 

not necessarily true. especially in a civil suit where the burden is shifted. enough of those being successfully litigated, and the government agencies will start cleaning up their act real fast.