to continue this charming set of analogies, france is the neighbour who appealed to the council to block our planning permition so we put a turd through their letterbox, ireland is the cousin who turns up to family functions too drunk to walk straight but charming enough to get away with it. and scotland is the uncle that touches you innapropriately.
hahahaha that's hilarious and so accurate. i love france being the asshole neighbor and ireland and scotland being drunk and sexually deviant. i guess germany is your asshole stepdad that makes you get up at 6am to clean raingutters and constantly calls you a lazy slob.
The UK sucks ass. Yes it has nice country side, history, scenery, hillsides, mountains etc other than that it's a shithole !!!
Yeah I agree! The UK might have nice scenery, nice history, nice mountains and wildlife, a great welfare system and free universal healthcare, a long tradition of freedom, democracy and liberty, some of the greatest artists and writers the world has ever known, and we might be one of the safest, most prosperous and most tolerant countries in the world, but other than that, ABSOLUTE SHITHOLE!
The free healthcare shoud be just for UK residents only and thoes contributing to the Government but thats another matter
I think " free healthcare" should only go to citizens and income tax payers, since they're the ones in the contract. I looked at all the illegal immigrants in the labor and delivery floor when I was giving birth getting free care I didn't get and free food and housing when I was broke and hungry and thought to myself "they must think we're the biggest buncha suckers ever."
No one wants to see people sick and dying and hurting. But it makes no sense to abuse finite resources, either. So I say make them citizens and taxpayers. And u don't wanna hear any nonsense about how they pay sales taxes. It's not enough to cover what they get out of the system. But now we live in an era of spoiled brats who are forever voting for themselves outta someone else's pocket. That can't last forever.
The NHS is only for UK residents anyway, obviously, aside from A&E departments who treat anyone who is brought in needing urgent emergency attention. Do we really want a system which checks people's National Insurance contributions before deciding whether to save their lives? Would you really rather pay a few pennies less tax and let thousands of people suffer and die? Good lord, the level of self-interested conservative thinking on a liberal forum like this is, though shouldn't be, continually surprising... I think we can forgive the Americans among us who don't really have any understanding of Western European welfare and healthcare traditions, but to hear supposedly open-minded "hippy" UK residents spouting that kind of rightwing Daily Mail garbage is pretty sickening to be honest....
no one wants to see dying people turned away, that's a knee jerk assumption. What I don't want to see is people abusing the system even more than they already do. People already get medical assistance and aid. But this lovely bill is forcing people to buy insurance, penalizing the ones who don't AND taxing insurance plans like my husbands into obsolescense. I have nothing philosophically against universal health care, but I do have something against poor planning.
If we go to another country we are expected to carry a E111 form with us or other types of insurance because if we get sick in another country we have to pay. We sholdn't have to pay for any non EU residents healthcare they should have the proper insurance. The NHS is underfunded as it is w/out having to pay for people who havn't made any contributionss to the government thats all
No, many western european countries have state healthcare systems freely available to their own residents just like the NHS is, but would provide emergency A&E services to anyone in urgent need, just like the NHS does. Usual NHS services are only available to those normally resident in the UK, not just anyone from anywhere, obviously, and those from other countries would need to pay to receive non-emergency services as I said, or have the appropriate EU form... Perhaps you're suggesting we allow people in need of emergency healthcare to die if they don't pay...
This is not really comparable to the situation in the UK because the NHS is freely available to any UK citizen and nobody is "forced" to buy private health insurance, though those who can afford it can if they want to, obviously...
i'm really upset, personally. there were things that coulda been accomplished without middle classers like me getting screwed so hard. i can't really believe dreadlock swampy is saying he wants to see people dying because they aren't citizens or taxpayers, more that he's saying he wants to see them do their part if they can. that's all i want.
Of course I don't wanna see them die that would just be in humane. I just think that the UK are far too soft on letting people geting away w/out paying their dues. My dad took ill on holiday in the US (luckly he had insurance) but was charged about $2000 just to take him the hospital in a firetruck and a further $3000 in medical bills why should the US charge for stuff like that and not the UK ??? you can go to any NHS funded drop in medicine centre and no questions asked, yes you have to pay for prescriptions but not the actual treatment it'self
