or is that just when you take it as Peyote? or is it just not true? i've just been under the impression that you generally throw up on the come up of Peyote/Mescaline.
throwing up is not a bad thing usually whn I puke the affects hit you really intense after the puking, It is usually called the purge, and spiritually it is supposed to get all the crap in your body , and soul out. I would like to mention mescaline and peyote are not the same thing. mescaline is usually from the san pedro cactus, and peyote is from the cactus peyote lol. they are different cacti with similar affects. I have only done peyote.
Had both peyote and synthesized mescaline. Vomited on every occasion with peyote, never on mescaline. Although, what the irritating agent is in cactus, I do not know.
is it sweet? way far down the road i would like to either give peyote or san pedro a shot. for spiritual purposes. but probably just once or twice in my life. how would you rank it compared to a shroom experience?
i dont puke every time on mescaline or cactus. probably with tea or whole cactus (peyote) i am more likely to puke. Peyote is way more likely to make me puke than anything. As was said earlier the medicine is working spiritual, physical and psychological toxins out of your system. Its not a bad thing to purge when working with cacti. with extracted mescaline acetate its very rare i will even get nauseas more than 10 minutes.
San Pedro and Peyote are species of cactus that both contain mescaline, mescaline is the chemical that causes your trip. San Pedro is easier to digest then peyote from my understanding. And eating a whole Petoye cactus in the tradtional way does produce a diffrent trip from a San Pedro extraction. I have only had San Pedro. I have never puked from it, but I have felt like I had had to for an hour or two before
Traditional cultures that used mescaline containing cactus generally said that the bitterness and puking were lessened in proportion to one's purity of heart. I've found this to be true.
I've only had San pedro as well and I must say after San pedro I don't have any desire to try peyote. Comparing it to shrooms: I enjoy San pedro more than shrooms except for the preparation and consumption. I find San pedro to be milder in its effects and more euphoric than shrooms. The comeup at 1 1/2 hours is very peaceful and blissful. After about a 1/2 hour into the comeup the visual aspect kicks in. I don't find San pedro to engulf my visual field with movement and patterns like shrooms and there is never any confusion. The open eye visuals mainly consist of brightened colors, edges becoming sharper/more defined, and slight peripheral vision movement.(in the dark there are some random shapes perceived) The world becomes slightly cartoonish and everything takes on this whimsical quality. For instance the last time I tried it, I took a trolley to go see a friend and it reminded me of riding on the little train at Disneyland that takes you around the park. I find shrooms kind of overpower my head into thinking a certain way and the shroom 'force' is in control. San pedro brings thought provoking and analytical notions to your mind but it never seems like its thrust upon you and your mind always feels your own. The two aspects where San pedro really excel are the aphrodisac qualities and the closed eye visuals. San pedro(mescaline) is a very sensual drug and I think the sensitvity to touch is more pronounced than shrooms. In regards to closed eyes, with shrooms I usually get some cool patterns that are set in like rows or something and occasional random unstructured shapes and designs. I get actual figures sometimes on San pedro. Last trip I remember with closed eyes seeing naked women dancing and there were blue zig zag lines that reminded me of Aztec art or something that 'fell' between them and there faces would morph slowly. The patterns seem to have more structure. I hope some of that helped . The overall feeling of the trips to me is shrooms are looping where you go through loops of really trippin to more level headed and I often have a point about the 3 hr mark of shrooms where I feel sober, only to peak again minutes later. San pedro(mescaline) has more of a flowing nature where it slowly blossoms, maintains for awhile, then slowly fades. I've never puked from San pedro but goddamn it tastes awful.
with San pedro, I've read most of the nausea producing alkaloids lie in the core and the skin, both of which I discard. The core is not even really psychoactive but some people say the skin is. I just compensate by not eating the skin and taking a larger portion of cactus and have never had problems with vomiting or nausea.
couldnt you pull off some type of (later) extraction with waste material? maybe store in freezer in solutions?? just asking.. Its always been my understanding that a purge was necessary for bio spiritual cleansing to take place..
Yes you could pull some type of later extraction i believe, but I feel it's a very cleansing experience how it is without vomiting. I've had spiritual experiences with mushrooms and LSD without vomiting, i don't find this any different. I don't think San Pedro physically cleans out your system in the same way ayahuasca does. I have respect for indigenous cultures views on these plants and entheogens but I personally don't think vomiting is necessary to 'understand' or experience the mescaline experience. If that's your belief by all means have at your puking. I don't find the substance particularly spiritual, more sensual but i most certainly find it cleansing, I love how refreshed i feel the following day.
I met this chick at a festival, and she carried around this puke bag. She would be fine for a while sitting by the fire, and then you'd see her puke in the bag, then laugh and have a good time,, and then puke in her bag. It was fucking hilarious and definately a trip to watch. She says she pukes off everything.. I would hate for someone to pick up her bag... hahaha
I've never had a huge dose, but I've never puked. (I've had enough to definitely be tripping with minor visuals etc.) I've been very nauseous, but never actually went all the way. This is with tea a few times and ethanol extracted black tar stuff two times. A least one time with the tea, I barely felt nauseous at all. I ate some ginger, and smoked a little weed during the come up that time.
how about just like mescaline pills regarding puking? i'm hoping to find some mescaline at bonnaroo this year. Do people generally find mescaline easy to find at festivals?
looking for mescaline at festivals is like asking to get ripped off or dosed with a research chem. The only way you will ever get it is to extract it or know someone who extracts it.