if i converted to islam but...

Discussion in 'Islam' started by Indica.Skye, Oct 9, 2008.

  1. Indica.Skye

    Indica.Skye Member

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    didn't pray five times a day...

    would i go to hell?

    that doesnt seem logical at all. especially because im expected to be so perfect as to never forget a prayer...well shouldnt i advance to that as i grow in my faith, rather than going to hell because i didnt try hard enough or was too lazy? i dont think that merits a "pass to hell". what about pedophiles? would i be in hell with them?

    but also, first of all, i dont believe in hell nor do i fear it. second of all, i believe that people should do what feels good. not at the expense of others, but if it doesnt hurt anyone, then why not? and smoking too. shouldnt we be able to use what we want that comes from the earth?

    ah i dont know anything anymore. id like some opinion though, please.
     
  2. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Muslims are like Christians. They don't always do EXACTLY as the law requires, but still love the path they're on.

    At the end of the day, its the content of the heart that is important, not outside ritual.


    x
     
  3. Indica.Skye

    Indica.Skye Member

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    thats true. thanks xexon.
     
  4. Elmafio

    Elmafio Member

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    Hey.
    If you choose Islam, U must do what Islam says.


    The Five Pillars of Islam (Arabic: أركان الإسلام) are five practices essential to Islam. They are:

    • The shahadah, which is the basic creed or tenet of Islam: "'ašhadu 'al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu wa 'ašhadu 'anna muħammadan rasūlu-llāh", or "I testify that there is none worthy of worship except God and I testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of God." This testament is a foundation for all other beliefs and practices in Islam. Muslims must repeat the shahadah in prayer, and non-Muslims wishing to convert to Islam are required to recite the creed.

    • Salah, or ritual prayer, which must be performed five times a day. Each salah is done facing towards the Kaaba in Mecca. Salah is intended to focus the mind on God, and is seen as a personal communication with him that expresses gratitude and worship. Salah is compulsory but flexibility in the specifics is allowed depending on circumstances. In many Muslim countries, reminders called Adhan (call to prayer) are broadcast publicly from local mosques at the appropriate times. The prayers are recited in the Arabic language, and consist of verses from the Qur'an.

    • Zakat, or alms-giving. This is the practice of giving based on accumulated wealth, and is obligatory for all Muslims who can afford it. A fixed portion is spent to help the poor or needy, and also to assist the spread of Islam. The zakat is considered a religious obligation (as opposed to voluntary charity) that the well-off owe to the needy because their wealth is seen as a "trust from God's bounty". The Qur'an and the hadith also suggest a Muslim give even more as an act of voluntary alms-giving (sadaqah).

    • Sawm, or fasting during the month of Ramadan. Muslims must not eat or drink (among other things) from dawn to dusk during this month, and must be mindful of other sins. The fast is to encourage a feeling of nearness to God, and during it Muslims should express their gratitude for and dependence on him, atone for their past sins, and think of the needy. Sawm is not obligatory for several groups for whom it would constitute an undue burden. For others, flexibility is allowed depending on circumstances, but missed fasts usually must be made up quickly. Some Muslim groups do not fast during Ramadan, and instead have fasts different times of the year.

    • The Hajj, which is the pilgrimage during the Islamic month of Dhu al-Hijjah in the city of Mecca. Every able-bodied Muslim who can afford it must make the pilgrimage to Mecca at least once in his or her lifetime. When the pilgrim is about ten kilometers from Mecca, he must dress in Ihram clothing, which consists of two white seamless sheets. Rituals of the Hajj include walking seven times around the Kaaba, touching the Black Stone, running seven times between Mount Safa and Mount Marwah, and symbolically stoning the Devil in Mina. The pilgrim, or the hajji, is honored in his or her community, although Islamic teachers say that the Hajj should be an expression of devotion to God instead of a means to gain social standing
    - The Qur'an states that all Muslims must believe in God, his revelations, his angels, his messengers, and in the "Day of Judgment"
     
  5. Tripping_Charlie

    Tripping_Charlie Member

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    yeah!!! do what it says!!!
    lol.. hey, the stronger in the faith you are, the better it becomes for you..
    so if you not praying your five daily prayers or fasting etc.. its just that you did not obtain much wisdom in it for you to love the religion. for example, many ppl see praying 5 times a day something thats forced upon you, yeah it is to an extent, but when you begin to enjoy it for what it starts to give you then its no more a force that is encumbered upon you, you do it for something thats more great than you can ever imagine.. and trust me, by doing it right you get to that level..
     
  6. deleted

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    ^what he said..

    I just did sunrise salah outside , before that I played with my dog.. Which to some Islamic teachings the dog is unclean, and in others only its saliva is before prayer..
    Fajr and Isha'a are the most important... Allah is a forgiving GOD, as is Jehovah the christians version of Allah or GOD..
     
  7. stoney69

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    fajr and isha'a, more important ? where you get that ?
     
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    most important to myself.. .. der..
     
  9. Balqis

    Balqis Senior Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsIRrONydHg&feature=related"]YouTube- Nasheed: Al-Hamdulilliah
     
  10. stoney69

    stoney69 Member

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    tres cool,

    alhamdulillah
     
  11. taurusincus

    taurusincus Guest

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    But isnt islam is all about being slave to arabic cultural imperialism?having arabic names,greeting each other in arabic,praying to an arabic named god in the direction of arabia and that too in arabic.

    I do not think it is an universal religion, it emerged from the imperialist ambition of mohammad, who wanted arabs to unite and dominate over the world.
    Islam was cleverly devised to achieve those objectives and it achieved them at the cost of disharmony ,violence ,intolerance and hatred towards non muslim faiths.
     
  12. Psychedelic Fireworks

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    Allah= Arab word for God. Arab Christians and Jews would use the same word.
    I'm from Pakistan and we don't even say Allah. We go "Khuda" which means God.

    I doubt all muslims have arabic names. I have a persian name. Zarak. It's also spelt as Zarek.

    The traditional islamic greeting is a really short prayer that asks for peace for the other person. I dunno what's wrong with wanting peace for someone else.

    here's a wiki article.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-Salamu_Alaykum

    Islam was born in Arabia so yeah it's going to arabic :p

    Not really. I'm an extremely devout muslim. If Islam wanted me to destroy every non-muslim faith, I'd be spearheading it. But it demands that I treat everyone with respect and love regardless of Faith, Color or Race. A Jewish man identified muhammad as a prophet. That's the biggest sign of inter-faith harmony for me. If God didn't want inter faith harmony, the jewish man wouldn't have identified muhammad.
    It's asking me to perform the Greater Jihad (The one against myself). Once a muslim suceeds in the Greater Jihad (enlightenment), I doubt they would ever want to touch a weapon.
    Hell,people are confusing the hadith with the Quran. The Hadith could be fabricated. Many of the Hadith contradict the Quran. In the Islamic Faith, God took responsibility for HIS word not his messengers.
    With the number of muslim psychos out there, if someone slipped in a hadith about killing infidels (saying infidels is another big no when it comes to Islam), the sickos would latch on it.
     

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