ever meet people who trip, but don't do rc's / synths?

that's what i thought. hehe

so is K not active orally or what? why don't people just eat that?

 

Oral K is very inefficient, takes 200%+ more than snorted, like most things

 

When I did it myself I did im. I have done iv a few times with some assistance.

 

i never really had any desire to try anything from the 2c family or the DOx family, or really any kind of chemical. i pretty much always have stuck to the stereotypical psychedelics. why? because i don't want to be using something with a short history of research, when i could be using something that is tried and true. maybe they are safe, maybe they aren't. but i don't want to be the one to find out. some drugs even though they may appear fine can have suble effects on some things.

 

That's a justifiable reason, but I do find that quite paradoxical to your signature quote.

 

I find myself being defensive about RC-use (as opposed to more mainstream or "national" drug use) with many of my drug-using friends.

Most of my friends are habitual, regular, recreational drug users. The DOCs for them are marijuana, alcohol, cocaine, nicotine and perhaps opiates. Anything not on that list is dangerous in many of their eyes - and also, presumably, not enjoyable.

These are all people who enjoyed LSD and Ecstasy any number of times in their 20s and 30s. Now that they are in their 40s, they seem to be paranoid.

For me, RCs are like being a kid shopping in a candy store. To this day, in spite of every rip-off or unpleasant experience or disappointing experience I've had using RCs, they are greatly appealing to me.

The visceral connection in my mind between RCs and actual sugar-based candy (which was never my thing) is so strong these days. I literally browse the site of an RC vendor with "visions of sugarplums dancing in my head."

Thumbs up!

 

I have always been into psychedeilcs and have wanted to have the experience with the different types. I first tried 5-meo-amt when I was about 15. Since then I have been interested in RC's. My second I tried was 5-meo-dmt shortly after.

Some people I can just get to try them, and some won't think about it twice. No question won't try them. I have got 2 people to try 5-meo-dmt with me that are new to psyches and do no research on any drugs at all.

One will never take anything from me again ever, and the other hit it again after he came down. And said he would try other things as well.

Everyone is different, I know at festivals some people know what's up and will try them. It's just hard to find ppl like us in every day life.

 

I have been dosing since i was 14. and will never stop. I hope my death bed has a dose nearby. Anyway, I'll mentoin theres doses around,and if someone wants to have a "mind opening" exsperience, I'll make sure they do. i actually told my kids when they were in teens that i'd crack their little heads if they smoked cigarretts, but doses were ok. My son reminds me of that all the time.hahaha They are all vary open minded kids. Funny thing is they have slowed down on dosing and i'm the one who has never stopped.
33yrs of mostly on again dosing, and i'm notperfect by any means ,but little damage from man-made drugs. don't think i ever will stop. i like who I am.

 

So, basically you're saying you wouldn't have dosed LSD in the 60's due to its short history of human consumption at the time?

 

I'm one of those people. The idea of synth's don't fly with me. They are just too good. They feel too good. I don't like swallowing chalky concentrations of chemicals. The idea of waiting on a pill to do its thing in my stomach just sickens me. X, H, Oxy,Oxyc, its just a dizzying library of endless chemicals each with a distinct individual effect. I cant enjoy all of those highs properly, Id rather keep things simple. Really learn to appreciate what I've already got. Sitting around with rap music blaring, looking for parties, while on ex is something I cannot get into.

Mushies are good though. An experience every now and then is good I think. Their trip always leaves me better than I was before. Grind them up, make some tea, drink some beer, its good stuff.

 

Sigh...

 

it's metabolized much differently.

oral ket has more of a pseudo opoate/sedative effect...works better as a pain killer ect.


but when you're snorting large amounts of something it tends to be just like swallowing with your nose, so in a k-hole dose you see both these effects...which makes me want to try it iv/im to compare.

i've only seen people IV ket...literally INSTANT lift off.

 

Why the sigh?

 

Don't see how a pill's actions on your stomach are more sickening than what booze does to you...

 

Booze does terrible things to me. I admit it. If I want a bottle of liquor its common knowledge where its sold, how much i need, what specific needs it cures.

Pills just seem too manufactured to me. Alcohol is manufactured yes, but something about the sight of a pill that gets to me. I was prescribed Hydrocodone when I got out of the hospital one time. Felt amazing. I could eat but I couldn't eat, I could sleep for the longest time. But when the drug was gone, I wanted it again. Now if I'm running back to the bottle every twenty minutes until submission (its temporarily constant) what do you think I'm going to do with a handy little bag of pills that I just so happen to have. I cant bring that pill popping image on myself. Its just not who I am or what I'm good with.

 

Being an alcoholic isn't any better....

 

Being an alcoholic is like being addicted to any substance. You indulge because it hurts or because your bored, the method of self medication is usually harmful to the person involved. Alcohol just smells bad, tastes bad, feels bad afterwords and makes your liver go kerplunk. It does what I need it to do. Pills would too probably, but its the nature of the pills that keeps me away from them. Its just not for me man.

 

You get more conservative as you get older. Doing RC's is a little sketchy. Unlike the main stream drugs that have been used for 30-50 years and whose side effects are well known, comparability RC's involve a certain measure of risk.

When I was in my late teens and early 20's, I would have tried anything. Now I am unwilling to roll the dice. I guess you don't realize what life is worth until you get old. In my case anyway.

 

I have a feeling that a select few RC compunds will be consumed even at old lady age. But until then, there are alot that I would like to try.