if eyes are like lenses, who is controlling the camera?

If our eyes are like lenses, who is controlling the camera?

My eyes really feel like they are taking in information as opposed to bringing it out.
As if my eyes were a camcorder recording a video, and the video is like a piece of a puzzle of meaning and purpose/ the secret/ of the final destination.

Who is controlling the camera?

It weirds me out how technology is advanced to the point where there are motion detectors, focus capable camera lesnes, and plenty of recording space on a 'computer'. Thats pretty much all the components one would need for living out a life, along with a continuous curiosity of what our purpose is. If we can generate personalities with machines and somehow combine all the devices listed above, then we can create human-life machine life really soon. What if our existence was a result of some hundred thousand old revolutionary technological mistake that resulted in our creation.

Life is like a wheel that has to keep spinning and the ground is created simultaneously while the wheel turns on the ground. Inch by inch, second by second, meter by meter, centi meter by centi meter. Part of our purpose feels like the purpose of living is simply to experience life. Our life represents a count in a nested loop which determines how long the road is. The creation of the road for the wheel to drive on hopefully means that there is 'final destination'.

If you believe that the loop is infinite then nothing happens when you die b/c you keep living, and death never comes.
If you believe the loop is FINITE then our final destination will be the 'end of the loop', it will contribute to the explanation behind this 'program' called life. It will basically be an permanent satisfying answer to all our questions.



Did god create us? If god has no limitations, what would a god be busy doing if he never had to create us? Is that our gods only purpose? Would god exist if it weren't for its creations? If a ball is dropped to the ground does it hit the ground because it was dropped or was it dropped because the ground was there?


How would we know how large infinity was if 1 unit of counting did not exist? Numbers are important. They are like a compass, it lets us know what direction we are going.

If you believe that god creates life, and you also agree that humans create life, then would you agree that we share some if not all of the qualities that a god has, including creating anything in an undefined infinite number of possible ways which have or don't have limitations depending on our perception. If you think that g-d has no limitations then I would tell you that that is debatable because our existence is proof of a limitation of some sort because we are not all infinitely happy and healthy, etc. Therefore, whether you believe that g-d has limitations or we have limitations it all depends on your perception. There is a infinite number of things you can do at any giving day, there is basically an infinity (time) nested in another infinity(options and possibilities) nested in another (choices), and so on and so on and we are capable of seeing the outline of all the infinities which seems like a LIMIT, but this 'LIMIT' is defined by us.... humans can live out any any amount of infinities that there perception will ALLOW them to. As far as we know, we have EVERYTHING we need for a perfect, 'impossible', and completely fulfilling life here on earth. The existence of humans and the humans capabilities may not be as limited as you think.


What if our purpose of life is too eventually die but infinitely live in some other form looping from one life to another without a final destination? We were/are created to live, that IS why we were created. Like a loop in a computer program, we were created to serve a purpose to someone in a different realm (god), or something in a different realm. Where the realm is eventually trying to get the bigger picture and in order to understand that bigger picture we have to live, we are our essentially pixels in a digital image where the picture could not exist without a certain pixel.

The existence of each of our lives is the most important! This is why... because when you assume the existence of each of the following:
LifeOf[1]Person=not important
LifeOf[1+1]People=not important
LifeOf[1+1+1]People=not important
LifeOf[1+1+1+...+n]people= Okay, NOW LIFE IS IMPORTANT.

LifeOf[1+1+1+...+n]people is composed of many individuals where I am one of them. Without me or everyone else present to fill in that spot for one of the ones then the count would always remain on 1 because your life can be anyone elses and if you took EVERYONE else's life away then life would not exist.

'Everyone' can only count as 'everyone' to someone IF there is more then 1 person in the group. Because, it usually takes a lot more then just 1 person for the group to qualify as: 'everyone'. We constantly change different values in our minds that qualify the considered group as 'everyone'. 'Everyone' would not exist without someone and someone would not exist without everyone. Moreover, 1 person can be everyone, or it can be no one. We set these limitations.

Isn't it weird how so many believe in ONE god, I kind of do as well. God is all that EVER existed, right?
Now, each spirit/soul exists uniquely within 'every person'. To 'every person' this consciousness is ALL that ever existed. Just like god is all that ever existed. See some similarities?

Lets say that god was on the top of a pyramid and we are on the very very bottom where we are 1/100,000,000,000... components of the same type (god is at the top of the 'pyramid' of us all in this analogy because god is one, he as on top). Then that means that we are the foundation of gods existence. Other people would not be able to exist with out me, I would not be able to exist without other people because 'everyone else' can be completely everybody, it does not have a limit, because we define limits, and it is IMPOSSIBLE for me to exist without everybody else because I am the resultant of two people and so are you...

Suppose that You(humancount)= the number 1 and suppose that the Total amount of humans in the world= the number 100.

Then number 1(you) can exist without number 100. However, the number 100 cannot exist without the number 1 because the number 100 is a component of one hundred 1's moreover each component of your being and each tiny life experience that you live out every second is just as important as your total LIFE. THATS why EACH of you are important, because 1 is important. Moreover, .000000001 is important because 1 is a component of many ".000000001" values. This applies to anything that may seem infinite. Every minute is important! Every minute cannot exist without every second, therefore every second is IMPORTANT. Moreover, ever 1/10 of a second is important because 1 second cannot exist if it werent for ten components of 1/10 of a second. Every tiny piece of knowledge does not seem important unless we look at our total knowledge. Let our growing knowledge be represented as bits of information such as 3000GB ( like a large computer) and by tomorrow its going to be 3001 GB, then...3002 GB, and so on. Then there was a STARTING point where you were born and that is a possible time where you knowledge began. Therefore, your current knowledge is composed of billions of bits and if you suppose that your total knowledge is currently at 3500 GB that means your total knowledge cannot exist with out three thousand five hundred 1GB components of knowledge, moreover 1 GB of knowledge cannot exist without 1000MB and 1000 MB of knowledge cannot exist without one the thousand components of 1 MB which is EQUALLY important because 1MB would not be able to exist without 1000KB of information and 1000KB of information would not be able to exist without one thousand components of 1 KB. Therefore, every bit of life that SEEMS useless and endless with no purpose is the foundation of our existence.

 

The primary visual cortex on the occipital lobe processes visual information which comes from the retina, and that information can be downloaded real-time to whoever is capable of accessing it (C.I.A., N.S.A., F.B.I., ..... Aliens)


Hotwater

 

i will tell you what i tell everyone that uses the bathroom at my house...
.......please face the camera!

 

EVERYONE please take the time to read some of my post, I know its a bit long but it took a long time to write and there is plenty of mindfucks and VERY interesting ideas in there.


...and comment

 

dude...i tried....i really did.....not happnin....sorry

 

Exactly ...... Too long :coffee:


Hotwater

 

You control the aperture and frame.

We believe to see and see to believe.

Computational thinking is not limited to human beings and is a simple one plus one type of development.

There is no final destination to metabolism. It is an endless string of 1s and 0s by virtue of our binary switching system, and is why the symbolic archetype of this phenomena is a snake eating it's own tail.

One thing for sure we did not create ourselves. Condition always take two to exist.

I know life to exist and that it creates in it's own likeness.

In a way you might say we take on limited dimensions in order to comprehend the greater dimensions of ourselves.

A fish may lay a thousand eggs of which only 10 survive to maturity, yet not one of the remaining eggs is wasted. They all contribute fundamentally to the wheel of life.

Creation is wholly symbiotic.

 

How about this... IF IT IS TOO LONG... Try reading from the bottom up, every other paragraph... Each paragraph can be enjoyed independently of the one before or after it.

 

Try harder, you might find something interesting You can spare 5-10min to read the post and try to understand. I am fascinated by it myself, I think you can find some interesting points in it.

 

thedope, thats for the reply, i hope you enjoyed the read man. I agree with most of what you said. This quote is awesome and so true:

 

Done so.

 

This leads to Paul Davies' philosophy of Physics, no? Environmental reality is modelized per observedness for it 'the New Physics and God' We take control of the future of Man and the Environment in the Universe. LOL. No, we don't take control, MAN, the controlling takes control.

 

the eyes dont see. the brain sees. all eyes do is allow light in.

 

everything is nothing, nothing is everything. find whiteness in blackness, and find blackness in whiteness.... existence can be as flexible you make it.


Btw, did anyone ever think about how different one persons perception can be compared to another persons perception of life. Moreover, how any humans perception about life is different from a certain animals perception about life?

...and im not talking about perception as in thinking or ideas or outlooks about certain things, im talking about PHYSICAL perception such as colors, sounds, emotions, feelings, etc...
When I am happy as hell, that feeling of happiness (or any other emotion) might be COMPLETELY different than your feeling of HAPPINESS and yet we seem to recognize that we are both happy simultaneously and we can relate to each other.


I must say that people UNDERESTIMATE the power that they have and other beings have. Think about how we degrade other animalistic beings and perceive them as completely incapable, 'disabled', or incompetent when compared to the human race.
When the reality of it is, we don't know what it is like to be in their shoes, we might have a few HINTS but we do not know for a fact that for example dogs cannot communicate w/ each other and laugh at each other or argue. Heck we don't know for a fact that dogs cannot communicate w/ CATS for example, or other animals. For all we know they can think, live, and enjoy life just as much as us and so can all the other animals.... yet we often fail to realize that and we insist on creating rankings in society and saying humans are smarter and better than other humans and that some animals besides humans are not even close to human intelligence, therefore, they are not capable of living out a FULL life.
For example, those 'plant'-like people. We don't know what they are EXPERIENCING first hand but we are quick to come to a conclusion that they are suffering! In some cases we might even pull the plug on them to 'put-them-out-of-their-misery' when really they might be getting more out of life then you and me.

 

Sure man we are all but cam recorders after all the universe happens by it self it controls itself and by extension so are we controlled by it because we are part of it. This illusion of individuality the personal reality is nothing more then random patterns that emerged out of chaos there is no meaning there is no control there is only the flow. You me we the universe do not make or create anything we just experience the present moment, all that exists is nothing more but a record of pasts present moments and the future is predetermine by the lessons of the past now the present moment is the realization of the decision or random glitch if inanimate to flow with the new or the same branch of reality as set out by the past which is just one out of the infinite predetermined branches of existence. So say when u paint a abstract picture the image pops in to ur head the colors and the shapes... were predetermine by the past but the chaos of the mind mixes all of those variables within the present moment to produce just one out of predetermined infinity of possible pictures.


Think about it who makes the decisions within ur head ? You ? Well who is you ?


We are all just a collection of experiences and atoms we are all but a patters within the neuron net and DNA which were made by the patter of the chaos. Everything including us are preprogrammed by the past experiences to choose within the present a future which already exist in a form of prediction, not because the existence creates reality rather the reality recognizes the patter of existence and where it will lead to in another words patterns seeks out patters there is no plan nor reason for this it is just that the nature of chaos is to unavoidably eventually produces some sort of pattern out of randomness from which we were born from. And in this sense we are all one there is no individual representation of chaos after all the patter formation which lead to human intelligence is not the first nor the last expression of existence you me we the universe and everything within could of turned out completely or just a little different do to a random butterfly effect in the past and in the future it did and it will its just when reality branches of it will branch again and again... changing ur personal reality and personal perception of it. I think all the branches coexist as one big net of possibility's(collective consciousness). The thing is from personal perception the branching feels seeming less because we all share the same past and memory's of it just like we all share a common ancestor right to the point of the branching and these connections run all the way back to ur personal original start of chaos and time u know ur birthday in the universes case the big bang.