Yea, if you haven't tried DPT and you like psychedelics, and you're passing it up,, you're broken man and need to see someone.
Anyone who doesn't take the DPT shall be shunned from the community (yes, that includes you codmouse).
what do you guys think about oral dosing? or vaporizing DPT HCl (in a legit vaporizer)? i know oral dosing is weaker and requires more material, and that you should convert to freebase to vaporize, but some say it is effective as HCl too. i can't stand snorting stuff, and i imagine DPT is pretty nasty. also, on BL a lot of people recommend 25-30 mg as a starting nasal dose. i know it's harm reduction, so what do you guys think. i know you probably think to just take 150 mg or more, but is 25 or 30 mg at all a worthwhile experience? is it more uncomfortable b/c you're stuck halfway and scared to death, when with a higher dose you are "dead" so just experience it for what it is with little choice? basically, i'm looking for some recommendations. i don't wanna snort or use needles, so what's the next best way? and what's a good dose for a cautious one like myself? i started with 12 mg 2ce and haven't went past 20 mg. i haven't done more than 4 hits of L at once.
Oh man Im so glad they stocked this!!!!! Im also wondering about how much to take for my first time... 40-50mg maybe? I dont know if I just want to dive in deep with this one yet until I test the waters.
Has anyone used dpt via im? Its the route I would go. Dosages are slightly less I imagine and from what I read it still takes a couple minutes to kick in which is good.
Shitty, even with MAOI. heard this is ok My first dose was 25mg. It's interesting, at low doses like that the fear is basically the same as on higher doses. But of course you get none of the important effects . . . so I can't suggest it. I would sincerely recommend a first dose of 100mg, with a trusted trip sitter (unless you know you can handle a novel psychedelic experience of maximum profoundness) , and a very safe indoor environment. Do it during daytime. No matter what, remember it ends in 3 hours.
25-30mg was my first try, and it was actually really fun...very mild though...NOTHING compared to 70mg, which had me going back and forth between ego and no ego. i'm also interested in smoking the freebase, as it truly does FUCK your nose up
Bleh seriously. I know Shermin has heard me say this a billion times but my nose was so congested after it felt like I got a gummy bear stuck up there. And I also took a 25ish one the first time and had mild fun. Walked through the park. Kind of looked like hands were reaching out of the grass at me, yet I was totally okay with it. And the next dose I am unsure how much it was but was definitely higher. maybe 50 or 60? Anyway. Got to the weird between place. Didn't even feel "high" just fucking uncomfortable with some visual trippiness. Also it was windy and a bit chilly out which I found irritating. Just one more thing keeping me in an uncomfortable body.
are you talking about 5 Meo dmt? If so (keep in mind I haven't done dpt) the length of dpt is quite a bit longer, more hallucinations. I got pretty fucked for weeks on end from 5 Meo dmt, not like I was still tripping but pretty damn paranoid and delusional and I can't tell you that I ever fully recovered. If you are referring to n,n dmt I say go for n,n dmt
so you think i should try vaping the HCl then, instead of snorting it? and what are the important effects? the realizations and loving life, etc? how important is a sitter really? i've never needed one before. i took my first dose and most of my 2ce trips alone. and my highest acid doses alone. i know dpt will be vastly more intense, but i don't see how having someone there would make it easier. they would probably just get scared if i'm shaking and puking and "dying" from a chem i got off the internet. did you have a sitter? i appreciate your advice, writer, so don't think i'm just ignoring you. but i might start with 25 mg and then jump to 100+ normally, i'd work my way up slowly, but maybe it'd be good to get a "small" taste and see if i respond like shermin and the folks at BL, and then i can jump to 100 or more for a peak experience that's all IF i snort it. i'd have to look up what dose to vaporize of the HCl
ill SO be trying this, i been waiting and waiting and now the time is really close to getting here. mmm. i was thinking of sucking it up and snorting it, and something around 50mg. i dont know if i want to do the 100mg starting dose Writer recomends but maybe ill be up for it. how wold that compare to like, 25mg of nasal 2ce? (pain-wise) also curious, what are people experiences with smoking it? ive onle heard from a couple people, and did some reading, but i like to hear it from people more.