Hey guys I'm new to the forums, and all I have to say is swim has had nothing but bad luck finding lsd their area. Swim was once given 2-ce? (i think thats what it is called by trip descriptions ive read on erowid and other forums) and the dealer said it was lsd. Has anyone had this problem in Ontario? Elsewhere? Also if anyone knows a little bit about 2-ce i'd be really interested in knowing if it has any side effects from long term use. Swim hasn't noticed anything and it was a pretty sweet trip the secound time swim experienced a higher dosage. -LKY
Yep, it also had a very bitter taste. The paper hits themselves had a noticeable amount of substance on them too, looked like calcium?
its unlikely it was 2ce if it was on blotter but its not impossible. I believe 2ci has been found on blotter paper before and 2ce requires a slightly smaller dose. I've done 2ce three times and as recently as last week. Its about a 8-10 hour high at a standard dose. I feel nausea in my stomach and slight sedation. Very colorful, geometrical cevs , patterning with eyes open, significant music enhancement and time distortion. You should go to the synthetic drugs forum if you want more info on 2ce in particular. But yes any sort of taste to your blotter is a good sign it was not LSD.
Sounds very much like the way you described it. I also could not sleep for almost 10 hours after I took it. I didn't get nausea, I just had a lot of air in my stomach.
I can say with 2ce that I enjoy the experience but I don't find it terribly pleasureable. One of the hallmarks for 2ce for me is that its not really recreational. Like I said it has a slight sedative effect and nausea so dancing or even really like hiking is not really an option for me. Explain your experience more and possibly that will reveal more.
The first time I dosed I tried to determine if it was lsd since it had a bitter taste so I only did 1 piece of blotter paper (dont know dosage size). It gave me a very mild high in comparison to my secound trip when i did three blotters. I was at a new years party at a very very busy club with some friends and I had a great time dancing out of all things. I usually never dance if thats worth anything, but I was throwing it down pretty hard haha. Light visuals were intense, at one instance all the facial features of my friend disappeared and his mouth turned into a cartoon like black dot which moved as he talked. It startled me at first but I came to enjoy laughing about it haha. Objects like bare tree branches turned into kaleidoscopic patterns, after everyone crashed that night I just sat on my friends deck enjoying the visuals I was getting from lights. It is a very sedative before I reached the main wave and ride it through until the end. However, both times I tried it I had a lot of trouble sleeping after the high which usually lasted for a whole day since I would wait until the next night to sleep. It would have been nice to do it with someone else but no one wanted to try what I thought to be LSD. I would also recommend taking a shower, my friend had these crazy colourful curtains which only increased the tracers and visuals I was getting. Smoking some pot after did not effect anything. Watching moving patterns and dancing on this drug are definitely the most enjoyed amplifications of it.
hmmm if I were to speculate I would say its a do x (DOI,doc,Dom,dob) or possibly a couple other bit obscure culprits. The dox class of chemicals usually have a long duration where sleep doesn't occur well into the next day. 2ce may have about an hour or so of stimulation post trip but not once have I not been able to get some sleep before the sun came up. Like I said maybe outside a select few dancing all night on 2ce won't happen. Your report does not sound like 2ce to me of the outside the color enhancement.
I personally have not had trouble finding LSD in Ontario. I have to travel to the big city to get some, but I know a couple of university students, so that's probably why I get genuine stuff each time. Yes, you have to be careful about RCs, because I see them in clubs all the time in the big city, but I don't see them commonly being sold as LSD as much as they were anymore.
aside from the dancing, it sounds like 2ce to me. i get slight sedation as well - but i still go on hikes. i dunno, i could probably get in the mood to dance on 2ce i guess. it really could have been a number of chems though. go to the synthetic forum. http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=334029
do you have trouble getting to sleep though? dox chemicals are more commonly found on blotter paper and have a substantially longer duration than 2cx chemicals(the exception being 2cp). Ive had 3 hits of dox (I believe it to be DOI after reading trip reports) and I did not fall asleep until the following night either, with these similar effects occurring. I danced, and the purported more 'trippy' distortion of like faces that i find in the tryptamine-esque drugs were present. I to have taken 2ce while camping and walked a fair amount of distant but that seemed like a chore in itself. There is obviously variability in individuals but the op doesn't seem that well versed in psychedelics, being a frequent ecstasy user and always going for a dance on any substance I can, I find 2ce on the bottom of the list of psychedelics to induce that urge and disinhibition to dance. Many new to 2ce even vomit their first couple trials.
I have been trying to get some at university, I generally have people say yes I can get you some but they never come through. I had read about dox as well, definitely trust your instincts on that one I just wasn't sure if it was 2ce or dox but thank you for clarifying.
Damn I envy you. I would trade 2-ce for lucy any day. Not that 2-ce isn't great, but LSD is seriously the shit.
This is true, the only thing I dislike about LSD is it always makes my gums feel like play doh or something. Like my teeth will just plop right out any minute.
I couldn't dance on 2c-e if I wanted to... I'm lucky to move at all once the body load hits.. something tells me, no.
you should try laying still from the time you dose (2ce) til after you come up. seems to make the body load less, and THEN you can get up and go do stuff. most of my early trips with 2ce were spent laying in bed listening to music. lately though, i go on walks with my headphones in and to answer your question, yes i do have trouble sleeping after 2ce. about the same as with acid. so it doesn't keep me up for over 24 hrs
Yah that's what I have with 2ce as well, DoI was like not being able to sleep until the sun went down the following day. .....eh i'm going to find our 2ce thread and maybe comment on there.