Are you going to spoil your vote?

Yeah, it's basically a wasted vote.

You have a point though, on paper some things sound reasonable. But i'd imagine he would be worse than he seems. You can see he is a blatant racist.

 

Gordon Brown vs. Nick Clegg vs. David Cameron... oh yeah there's a whole lot of reasons to be optimistic.:coffee:

Get Howards Marks up for election and I can guarantee you that I would vote for him and probably a lot of other people too.

Fuck the lot of them. Should I vote for the party that says it is going to put and end to the persecution of cannabis users? No, because THERE ISN'T ONE.

So should I vote anyway, and maybe by the time I'm hitting 50 and my life is nearly over things might, just might change?

I doubt it. So I vote with my feet and my two fingers.

 

Apart of me does feel like its useless voting,b ecause at the end its really not the public's choice..
Do the votes even count?Is voting just a false event to make society think that we're apart of choosing our leaders? can someone explain.

 

Griffin is a populist. As much as I agre with him on some points, ie. climate change, he is still a nazi.

 

I think you already did.

 

spoiling your vote is voting BNP. nobody forgot the third reich. when a far right wing party starts getting votes people take a look and think "what's going wrong here"

they will probably try and "clamp down" on it of course, which will inflame things further. but that's the point, stop trying to make the stepford wives and put forward the opinion of your constituents in the international field. if you can't do it, get another job, because you won't save the country. we're trailing in england here, look at the mess of the federal vs state law on marijuana prohibition in the USA.

 

Good for you. Vote McleodGanja

 

REALLY..what do you think?

 

Oh sure, because they listen to people who smoke cannabis in the UK. I'll go round to my local MP and ask him to include the legalisation of it in his manifesto.

No, they prefer us to shut our mouths and just put the X in the box. It's better if we all don't have to think too much.

 

admittedly if you were in bradford don't vote bnp but if you are in a safe seat, it's the only way anyone will notice.

 

I don't think voting BNP is a good protest vote. I don't think ever supporting a fascist party even as an anti-government statement is a good idea. You will add to their popularity and make it more acceptable to vote for them in future, make these nazi thugs and their idiotic racist views appear more respectable and mainstream. Politicians won't take it as a sign that they're doing something very wrong, some parties may pander slightly more to racist and xenophobic elements if the BNP really took off in order to compete. But generally all it will probably do at the moment is to make politicians take a vigorous anti-BNP stance, denounce Griffin and carry on self-righteously doing the same as before in the belief that they're standing up for decency and democracy. Which, compared to the BNP, all the mainstream parties actually are...

 

hahaha.....:willy_nilly:

 

yes it would make them more acceptable to vote for them in future (like you say.)
yes it would make their voice appear more mainstream (like you say)
politicians taking a vigorous anti-bnp stance will liquidate order in the country and frankly if they cannot do what the populous wants them to it's not a bad thing.
yeah i agree the bnp aren't a win for democracy or sensible.
it is a wakeup call that you aren't getting it right.

like i said, bradford, no, vote the party who you believe in
you in a safe seat? sure, go ahead, it will make them realise they are going wrong, they may clamp down on it, but it would be a mistake, and if they make this mistake, society won't suffer for it in the long run.

honestly can you see the united BNP party of UK? exactly, used carefully it's a protest vote, just make sure you know how your electorate works

spoiling your vote will mark you as a fringe anarchist, and contribute nothing. you didn't win or lose anything for anyone, and nobody will care except you

 

Compared to a nazi party it's not hard to take the moral high ground...

 

No it won't cause civil unrest or disobedience, the BNP are still a tiny minority and many of those who vote for them are probably doing so out of a misguided desire to protest, latent racism or ignorance. I would say the first two points - making more people feel it's ok to vote for them and to make their idiotic and ugly racism more mainstream are really, really bad things for this country and far outweigh what little "protest" value such a wasted vote would have...

No, you don't vote for an ignorant fascist thug party out of disaffection with the system. You help make things worse by doing that. Quite apart from that it just makes you look like a racist twat...

 

Your opinion of if I'm a twat or not will get swallowed in the general election. My vote for something everyone despises will ring bells in their accounting throughout their entire term.

But I'm willing to be educated. Give me an alternative that is better, if you have one, I'm all game.

 

...Wow. So this is what the forum has turned to.

 

Politics are getting brutal now of days, in the UK we can't hope to muster the strength of felling of manipulative twats who says, "if they pass the health care reform, i will be out on the streets with my gun"

(home run republicans, you are going to look back on this and regret it)

yet there is a lot of unease here. we are the 51st state, uninaugurated. we do whatever uncle sam says we do. this isn't going to end pretty. time to wake up

 

Welcome back matthews, well we've always had the odd fool coming along suggesting we vote bnp, as least this one is not suggesting it's a good idea based on their policies. Though of course whether you vote fascist because you're a nazi or out of a badly misguided sense of dissatisfaction, the result is exactly the same...

 

bs i know exactly who will win in my constituency (got a grand riding on it) and it isn't the bnp.