Well, my grandfather is dying and all tubed up in the emergency room...and it has sent me for a loop. Was having a conversation with my father the other day about how to manage the situation: Should we take him home, how long are we going to let the doctors intervene, etc. For one, all the cardiovascular problems grandpa has, I'll probably have as I already show benign versions of those things... Anyway, the conversation then moved on to my dad, because he wants to die at home. He said he's going to write a will. I on the other hand, want to die in the hospital (assuming I won't die a sudden or violent death) , with the use of euthanasia, and then be cremated and have the ashes disposed of in a regular trash container. I don't want any symbolism around my body or memory. So, I derive a strange comfort from the medicalized death process... How do you guys feel about your own deaths? I'm talking about the practical details of your body, not your beliefs about what happens afterward. Should I write a will now? Edit: All that I ask is that my nurse be hot as hell. I want the last person I see to be a hottie with big boobs and a tight, round ass.
To relieve suffering I’m all for euthanasia If you don’t get a hot nurse just pop in the DVD Candy Stripers (1978) and you’ll leave this world happy Hotwater
Depends, I don't euthanasia is right for any given situation. If you are going to die anyways, then that seems fine to me. I mean, my grandmother is 88 and she is blind, mostly deaf and senile. She also has loads of physical complaints and complains that she doesn't want to live. All she gets is some silly NHS nurse telling her to pipe down and she is lucky. I mean, she has lived a full life and she claims she is ready. Personally I would want the option if things did turn out that badly, it kills me to see her like that and it would to see anybody else suffer. But yeah, I am a donor anyways due to an ill fated accident that opened my eyes when I was young, so my body would be used to help others then hopefully be cremated. I am not religious, so I would have a humanitarian funeral just for the family, then I want the ashes scattered. I am not going to write a will, but I am young, but it cannot do any harm to have own- just to answer your question. Although my advice from hearing of a family around my street, is to revise it often however.
As far as I know in the UK for terminally ill patient they sort of use euthanasia anyway, just not until the last last point where the patient really can't take the pain anymore. Normally in cancer sufferers what kills them in the end isn't the cancer but a morphine overdose, it just isn't talked about officially. If I ever end up in a situation where I know I am going to die, and it's going to painful and humiliating then I'd just want a pill that turns the lights out before I have to suffer any of it. Critics of euthanasia argue that it would put elderly and vulnerable people under pressure from family to end it, but I actually think that would only happen in rare cases. The fact is allowing people to suffer when you can end it for them is inhumane, and there are no justifiable reason for it. I think most people would want to end their life with dignity, and we should respect that.
I actually don't think that's true. I live in the UK and my grandfather died of cancer 3 years ago. They just let him die in pain, against his wishes. If you have heard of that then obviously it's illegal, but equally just one persons attempt to cover up a massive mistake. The Netherlands quite obviously allow it, but the United Kingdom is the most politically correct place on Earth more than likely and thus such a practice would never happen. But then, if i'm wrong- i'm even more fucked off about the way they pick and choose their patients for certain proceeders.
I am a big fan of ending suffering. If someone is not going to get better and they are in pain, I think they have a right to end the suffering. As for me. No, I want to endure to the bitter end. What happens to my body? I will be dead. So I will not care.
huge fan. sometimes i'll prop a lawn chair in front of their beds, crack a cold one, and cheer for the home team. they never seem to win though
Yeah, that's my alternative position. But then again, I think I'd like to troll the living one last time. rettyplease:
I'm all for euthanasia too. I'd probably just want it for myself at a certain age even if don't have severe health problems. I want to be naturally buried. Coffins are so stupid! I want to be decomposed and let the maggots, worms and plants eat my body apart. McLeod reminded me, that yeah i'd want to be a donor. donate everything i can, and then naturally bury anything else.
I think carrying a donor card is a good idea for people who have a fear of waking up dead, you know that some people who get buried aren't clinically dead. Don't fancy taking the risk? Have your organs taken out when you die, there's no way you are waking up then matey.
Nobody should have to live if they don't want to. Everyone who owns anything should have a will. Plenty of people die unexpectedly.
If you don't have a will in the UK, the legal disposal of property is entirely sensible if you have immediate family and there's not any need for a will, they will get it 50/50. Very pro euthanasia. When I want to check out I won't need any help but people who never thought about it until they're ready shouldn't be denied the right to leave on their own terms, in comfort and peacefully. If someone wants to die you just need to think, can you TRULY make their life better? No jesus, no belief system you have that you want to implant in them. Can you make them happy with their own belief system and what they value in life (which often includes strongly things like mobility, not needing a colostomy bag, etc). If they truly want to go, there's nothing objectionable in helping them. The UK government still considers it murder but has publicly stated that they will not prosecute people who are simply aiding the true wishes of the evacuee. I don't generally like legislature having grey areas, but this is one of those places it makes sense.
No to euthanasia...yes for "do not resuscitate" (living will) and palliative care. If you are diagnosed with terminal whatever, and can commit suicide on your own, so be it. But I don't want people pulling plugs willynilly just to get insurance money quicker, or to free up hospital beds for rich people. I know you are not wanting that, Cher, but alot of poeple out there would abuse it. My grandpa was in a palliative care unit when he died from cancer a few years ago and it was a nice place, where they did not let him be in pain.
on the other hand one of my grandparents was looked after at home and went into a nursing home towards the end. she was dead in 3 weeks, just gave up. she was a colossal woman and i'm 100% certain if she still had the wit about her to know her own mind, she'd have rather died at home on her own terms. as would i. the "pull the plug to get insurance" thing is nonsense, i trust the CPS would know the difference, and if they didn't a jury of 12 men and women certainly would disregarding that, on selfish terms, i'd rather risk being done in by greedy relatives than being a vegetable for years. how about you? and if you wouldn't want to be a vegetable either what right do you have to condemn others to the same fate. people own their own lives and don't need your patronage, condescension or possessiveness.
If I was in pain and suffering with no hope of getting any better, then I would want to have the choice to die, and if I needed help I could well ask.
Euthanasia. a total yes if the given is that the person who is dying makes that decision or has made either a living will, left instructions (legally) or made it clearly known that it is their wish prior to not being able to voice it. Every country allows for medical euthanasia, they simply do not call it that. When a coma is induced to control pain, that is exactly what it is. Having been in this position over the last two years, I have made my wishes and expectations known both verbally with a team of doctors as well as family and my children. The person who holds not only my medical proxy but also my power of attorney will ensure that what I wish is carried out. Palliative care is a wonderful thing if pain is controllable, if not, it is like prolonging someones agony that in no amount of time will abate. I support also the right of those who do not wish to use euthanasia, but I also respect that opinion far more from the person who is ill. The one who is ill and makes the decision not to has weighed out the options for them and made a decision based upon what they want. I respect their choice. Quantity of life is in most cases rather a paradox if you also do not have quality of life.
Well, euthanasia isn't the same thing as physician assisted suicide. Euthanasia is when a doctor decides it is best for the patient to die and decides to kill the person regardless of what the person or the family thinks. I am a supporter of Physician assisted suicide, NOT euthanasia, at all.