Euthanasia...Any other big fans out there?

euthanasia vs assisted suicide, it's a tough one if you are drawing a contradiction. basically if i'm not able to tell you what i want to do with my life and have very little chance of recovery, put me out of my misery. end of. pro euthanasia.

if i was bleeding in the trenches with my entrails spilling on to the ground i'd hope one of my brothers had the stones to put me out of my misery, might not feel like it at the time, but my mind wouldn't be clear then would it. and i'd do the same for anyone else.

 

I'm sorry the hear about your grandfather.

All four of my grandparents died in the end from morphine overdoses with little pain so I guess they were in a subtle way euthanised although they were pretty much terminal already.

Euthanasia just became legal in my state last year and there have been a few cases of abuse so I'd have to agree with daisymae on the issue.

I'm an organ donor, would like to be cremated and haven't even thought about a will yet.

 

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Honestly, your post confuses me. Not a logical thought sequence at all. If a doctor kills a person against their will it is murder.

A doctor who assists a person to end their life is under legal definition performing euthanasia. Legal definition, as well as literal.




ps....edit as I hit before I added.......your opinion and your choice. Did not mean to make it sound as if you are not entitled to have it.

 

Well, the doctor would usually be killing a terminally ill or mentally incompetent patient. Euthanasia is the doctor making the choice that killing the patient would be best for the patient. Rather than the patient making that choice. Physician Assisted Suicide is legal in a few states in the U.S, euthanasia is illegal in all 50. In Euthanasia, the doctor actively injects the patient with drugs or lethal injection. This is highly illegal.

"No. Physician-assisted suicide refers to the physician providing the means for death, most often with a prescription. The patient, not the physician, will ultimately administer the lethal medication. Euthanasia generally means that the physician would act directly, for instance by giving a lethal injection, to end the patient's life. Some other practices that should be distinguished from PAS are: "

http://depts.washington.edu/bioethx/topics/pas.html

PAS is legal in Oregon, and maybe Washington State.

 

people should have the right to register, "if i can't tell you if i want to live or die in my own words, and the doctor thinks i won't be able to tell you within a year one way or the other, or it's been a year and i still can't tell you, i want to die"

that would make me happy.

all the cases of patients wanting to die and their family being prosecuted for it, simply no. they can say in their own words its time to leave and make their wishes known, respect it.

 

They sort of can do that. It's called a living will. In all 50 states, you have the right to refused life sustaining medical treatment in any situation. You also have the choice to say that if you are mentally incompetent than the doctors can stop giving you food and water. In most states, that is the best they can do.

 

stop giving food and water isn't half as good as getting jacked on barbiturates and given a check out dose of opiates or even nitrogen. not good enough.

i don't live in USA either it doesn't work like that here.

still i don't want to be denied food and water on exit, i want to leave on a high. kill me softly please.

 

Not sure how many people you know who ever come out of a terminally ill medically induced coma It is the most compassionate way that a physician can deal within the law. The drugs used are gradually increased and do what nature needs assistance with.

As far as assisted suicide, there is a whole lot that can go wrong with that as well, let alone asking that a friend and or family possibly have to assist or god forbid walk in on completion of a person doing it.

No scenario is easy, nor is any right or wrong, except for the person who has to make it.

Never an easy situation for those who need to make choices nor for those who must accept those choices.

As far as legalizing, I believe it just should be. Those who do not, that is alright to.

 

not ok with me. i want the right to get jacked with barbituates and given a lethal opiate or nitrogen (inhaled) overdose when the game is up. it's my life and if you had compassion you'd do it.

 

All those against, are you against other people having the right to end their own suffering, or just you? Because if you were faced with the choice between a fast painless death, or weeks on end of screaming in agony, vomiting blood, and shitting yourself in front of everyone, I think most people would go with euthanasia. If you really want to go through that it is up to you, but everyone should be given the choice.

It's terrible that this is even questioned. It is just better all round for everyone if the worst bit and the end is just skipped out. I don't give a fuck what any religion says about the sanctity of life.

 

I think the euthanasia are the same as any where else.

 

Groan.... I totally want to kill myself now.:coffee:

 

They are smaller and more yellow.

 

Russians are red

 

and they wear pretty clothes.

made my point, no opposition, case is closed. if you disagree you are broken and damaged as a child, etc... i like your name dopie.

 

I have nothing against someone committing suicide if they are terminally ill. Have at it. When it gets down to having someone else do it, I have a problem with that because I feel it will be abused more often than people think.

Euthanaisia is not someone ending their own suffering, it is someone else doing it for them.

Everyone has to die, and not everybody gets to go peacefully. It's just the way it is.

 

Yeah so some people are unlucky enough to end up in a position where they are dying and have lost or are about to lose their faculties, so they rely on people to help them. They are at our mercy, and if they ask for help we must grant them it. Now we have the correct definition of euthanasia.

However often it gets abused is of no relevance here, it is our duty to help them, but sadly because of the law and religious dogma not everyone gets that help. The way in which it can be used to help people in such situations can be controlled by the hospice, so that certain vulnerable people such as old people with dementia are not unfairly pressured into it.

Terminally ill patients facing a slow agonising death are not that difficult to prognose (is that a word? if not it should be!) and there can be laws and protocols there where the patients can be assessed for their suitability based on certain criteria so that their is no abuse. If it is done legitimately all cases can be proceeded with at the discretion of a qualified doctor, and yes there is still the possibility of abuse but then there always is no matter what in these situations, take Dr. Shipman for instance, look at what he did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Shipman

Allowing it to go on and controlling it seems like a better method of preventing abuse than unnecessarily criminalising the mercy killer. Or in any case it probably makes little or no difference anyway.

 

My point is that if it was legalized then those that wish to have the right to dictate how they die could, those who do not wish to then may choose to die "naturally". What ever die naturally means to them.

So see under my imperial rule you would go a happy camper. Too bad you have to be that ill to get the buzz though

 

I do have something against putting people who are incurable in the position of having to commit suicide for many reasons. Mainly their families. Let a lone that it disallows for many benefits the family may be able to get because they committed suicide.

In the countries that have allowed euthanasia, the opposite seems to hold true. There is not abuse of the system, instead there is choice.

If I wanted to bump off old uncle XX I sure don't think I am going to be asking for legal assistance to do so.

Even having a living will can cause problems if families object as then often doctors do not want to treat as the were requested to due to law suits. The first thing any lawyer will tell you is that while your living will is a legal document, discussion with family about it is important before you need to have it used or applied. There have been cases where the person with the living will has had to go to court to defend their own living will or send a power of attorney to do so.....all because of some "good" family member does not agree with their choice.

As I stated before, there are no easy answers and abuse to me is not allowing a person a reasonable choice in what they wish to have as an ending.

Going hard is a given unless you are very fortunate............but how hard does anyone really want to have to go? It is not only the person who is dying who if affected, those who have to stand and watch someone they love die in agony.....not the best way to end a life or a memory.

 

I'm against it- you'll be going down a slippery slope and it won't end up being those who without intervention would only live a few weeks longer. Work more at relieving pain instead.