the pull out method safer than condoms???

But for most of the women who can safely take them, most doctors still say they are best, safest, and most reliable option for birth control. My doctor says I can safely stay on the pill right up until menopause. I haven't had any problems with them at all.

 

What do you call a guy that uses the pull out method? Daddy!

 

the pull out method is nothing to rely on. nothings a sure way of avoiding pregnancy besides abstinence (fuck that) in saying that in my stupid days i never got pregnant using the pull out method. i got pregnant on the pill

 

statistics are bullshit IMO, it's not like if you pull out properly there will be a 4% chance of failure EVERY TIME
its that 4% of all the times recorded in that specific study, it failed

also if you stuck to statistics, the OP is pregnant
I'm guessing the OP has done this more than 25 times
if she has, that would mean that no matter what, she has gotten pregnant from it (4% of 25 = 1)
and I don't think she is pregnant, or at least not that we know of ;]

in actuality, if it's done PROPERLY it has a 100% success rate . .because it was done properly
if you use a condom properly, you won't get pregnant, because if you use it and it breaks, you are no longer using it properly

but anyways, pulling out is a safe method, as long as you know how to not cut it close, as in stopping well before you ejaculate, and finishing with a different act

EDIT: that really sucks that you got pregnant on the pill !!
did you forget to take it one day, or were they not working ?

 

no way... I'm 5 months pregnant thanks to the pull out method... sigh.... wouldn't be so bad if we weren't seperated! :S Stupid feelings...

So, no... I don't think the pull out method is safer than the good Ol' condom!

xx

 

4% means 4 times out of a 100.

What the fuck are you even on about?

You really don't seem to understand how statistics apply to the real world.
First of all, you're putting them to a smaller scale, weakening the accuracy of the statistics.
Secondly, statistics are an estimate.
Third, you aren't even applying them right.
A 4% chance of pregnancy, means that there is a 4% chance EACH time. Not that there is going to be 4 pregnancies out of 100 fucks.

No.
Because it doesn't just have to break. You could've used it properly but there was a microscopic tear in the condom that you didn't know about.

You could've pulled out properly, but your precum was very fertile, or one little sperm was lucky enough to find an egg.

Now I get what this little attack was about

 

the pill makes you bitchy, the injection/jab makes you fat, condoms suck and make you dry and makes the ladyloveparts smell weird, IUD can get knocked about by decent sized guys, pull out method is no way to be safe- spermicide shit makes your boys mouth numb and tastes nasty when you wanna do other things. its like fuck. lets all just get out tubes tied. im starting to think that there's no god- love is no longer free and a good shag- simple shag, is no longer possible. fuck it im gettn a beer.

 

how the fuck do you use a condom improperly all you do is put it over your dick

 

you're right, I overlooked the tear possibility

=P it wasn't supposed to be an attack, I just want to be more active in these forums, I've had an account on here for a very long time, and I have very little posts, it seems almost wrong to me

(this isn't supposed to be an attack either, just so you know =P)
I'm just saying that statistics aren't accurate in the real world, things happen the way they happen, it's not like god rolls a die every time has sex without a condom to see if they're going to get pregnant, there are so many factors beyond pulling out, or the pill, or condoms
the stats say there's a 4% chance, that just means that 4% of the people in that specific study got pregnant while pulling out properly
if there was a 4% chance each time, then that would mean that there would be about 4 times out of a hundred every time, percent means out of one hundred

but in my opinion, if you're pulling out properly, you're pulling out before precum is even a factor
but this is just my opinion, and even pulling out this way there is still a chance that it won't work

 

I used the pull-out method for years with an ex-girlfriend but I regret it for mostly one reason ... it's not pleasant to pull-out exactly on the moment of orgasm every single time. Plus it became stressful eventually for any accidental ejaculation ...

Condoms are also not so pleasant for the same reason if using them all the time. Having plastic all the time around the penis is just not sex.

So now with my current girlfriend we use a variety of combined methods. We have sex without condom and towards the end I put on the condom. Another way is again towards the end, I pull out and I finish with a hand job from her, but this is not so pleasant for her if done a lot. So oral sex plays a big part in our love making experience and I always have in mind to do before (or sometimes after) extra oral sex on her, since women need extra stimulation anyway than us guys.

However, things to be careful about these methods are:
- Paying attention to the fertile days (the period cycle, etc) and be much more careful on those days. Maybe use condom more and much less penetration and more oral sex or use of hands those days.
- While having sex being inside (penetration) without condom it is possible the initial liquids that come out from the penis (commonly said pre-cum) to have active sperm.
- By mistake when close to orgasm there might be ejaculation which sometimes it is very difficult to control exactly on the very exciting moment of orgasm.

On the two above cases if there is a suspicion of any of these happened, combined maybe with fertile days, the "pill of the next day" becomes essential.

So, enjoy sex responsibly .... but no matter how careful one might be "accidents" can happen and that should be considered ok. We can't abandoned the experience of sex and go totally crazy ... Take the precautions that you can as much as you can and if something happens then you take care of it then ... That might sound irresponsible but it isn't, the rules our society has imposed many times are irresponsible expecting young people not to have sex (a totally natural act) because of the fear of pregnancy. More education on the subject would prevent more effectively unwanted pregnancies plus the overpopulation which is a huge problem today ...

 

WHAT????

With the pull-out, there's always an amount of "pre-cum" that slips out which is just as capable of impregnating a girl as a guy's full load. Further, as your sex life progresses and you experience additional partners, the pull-out method does nothing to protect against STD's.

We have friends who have three kids - they planned to have children, but one was a condom baby, one was a pill baby, and one was an IUD baby. I can't guarantee they were the best practitioners of the use of these products, but it does show that a casual approach to birth control can lead to undesired results.

 

I have yo give you some credit for the god rolls a die comment. Doesn't do much for me - but it's a nice line. I don't know if I believe in fate - so I might be more akin to agree with the die being rolled every time anything happens.

Personally, my dick starts lubing itself up as soon as the making out gets heated up - I mean, it's natural function is to make sex pleasurable and working - so I don't see no pre-cum being involved in most any intercourse.

As far as the statistics, no, they don't align with the real world 100% - but they give you a general idea - that's their job, to be an estimate. I don't like your summary of how the survey must've went - I would think not only would participants be a factor but also amount of times they had sex.

Outside factors seem to account more for me than for you. After all, we don't know how many of the participants were sterile.
I should've linked to my source so we could both read about the survey more, but I don't remember it =/

Tearing it, storing it improperly (in a hot place like a wallet or back pocket for instance), using lubricant that weakens the material, etc. etc.

 

if a women plans out there ovulation cycle, you can determine the time during the cycle your egg and the males sperm can meet. IMO if you map out your cycle and use the pull out method, the chances are very small on getting pregnant if your having sex the least likely time for everything to meet

 

Thank you all for the advice,really much help.
I learned that the pull out method has many risks.
Sad to say but I cant continue having unprotected sex with my
bf,I have to be smarter about my choices. I don't want to end up
finding out I'm pregnant because i wasn't smart enough to use a damn condom.
About the pill not sure about that,I will find out more info and talk to my doctor.
Thanks again guys

 

Oh geez, this is high-tech Catholic birth control - the "rhythm method." There's also a variation dealing with body temperature, etc. I don't know anybody who's taken this seriously - at least not anybody who's not open to unplanned children.

The pull-out method? Yeah, I've always been really focused on pulling out just as I'm getting that warm feeling, my toes start curling, and I'm on the verge of convulsions. When I feel my load shoot to the tip of my penis, all I want to do is come. A warm vagina seems a lot more appealing and convenient at that moment than pulling out and using my hand to shoot it all over her belly.

Yeah, I think I'll keep my penis tucked away until that "window of opportunity" opens. :rofl:

 

I don't believe in fate either, but I don't believe in chance
it's a hard belief to explain, I think things happen the way that they happen
and outcomes depend on different variables, and not chance

 

Sounds sorta like fate at first, but I get you.

Things will end up the way that they will, but not because that's the way that they will - because that's the way they've been set up to.

I think I believe that too. I think it might just be called realism =P

 

yeah it makes the most logical sense to me
if fate were true, creativity would be worthless
art would be meaningless
life would be pointless

 

I've never had any problems while being on the pill. It also depends on the method that is chosen.

 

some women don't have problems with the pill, many women do
you have to try it to find out though I would assume