Trip Problems

My Close friend when ever he is on acid he cant talk, well he can but he only can reply to questions and very breifly... even sometimes when i ask him somthing he answers it with my questions but flipped around so its an answer for example:

Me: Dude we should go egg that bitches house...
Friend: Yeah we should egg her house
Me: Do you want to?
Friend: You want to?
Me: Yeah i do but do u
Friend: Yeah i do do u
Me: Yeah -.-

Its just annoying and i cant seem to understand why his like that, he also told me after the trip when me and my other mates talk about something he thinks we talk about the same topic for 15minutes, which is completely normal even when off acid but in his head he thinks its a bad thing... anybody have any friends that can relate to my mate or any personal experiences and ways to get him to enjoy is trip and to talk more?

 

man that would get annoying..
i cant stop talking when im on acid, but once i was tripping so much i couldnt even make a sentence for some reason it felt like i was retarded or something lol

 

LSD effects your short term memory and its probably more noticeable in some people, and its probably more prominent among people on their first few trips. In regards to thinking about talking for the same thing for 15 minutes, LSD has profound mental shifts in the way you Interpret and perceive language, lasting even a couple hours after the visual trip has worn off. Furthermore LSD can permanently change the way you think about things to a lesser degree. So he's probably noticing patterns in your guys communication that for whatever reason doesn't agree with him on LSD. You should ask him next time why he thinks it bad and if he can't mutter out a response like write it down on a paper or something and ask him later. The effects of LSD vary from person to person and trip to trip so its really hard for me without knowing him to give you a definitive reason why he views your conversation as bad.

 

in regards to getting him to enjoy it more he doesn't necessarily have to talk more. That may be something you want but LSD is a very personal, intospective experience alot of times. Things that always help improve my trip though is music, going outside and looking at stuff (rocks,trees,flowers) up close, sex, marijuana, and meditation.

 

If people don't talk to me for a while I tend to get inside my own head and I stop talking. But I'll say some weird shit sometimes haha. As long as you make sure the conversation keeps going and everyone's involved it's happy tripping

 

that would be frustrating. i wouldnt necessarily claim its from LSD, ive seen similar situations happen to those just high off weed. i dnt think theres anything you can do, its got to come from within him/her. Maybe youll be better off enjoying eachh others company sober, i know i have certain friends who i choose to trip with and others who its better off not.

 

like guerilla said, lsd is a very personal experience. While you may find it easy to hold a conversation with someone, he obviously cannot. Is he already an introverted person when he's sober?

 

I almost completely lose the ability to verbally communicate.
It can be done, but it takes serious focus and I have to have a saint's level of concentration just to form a 3 word sentence.
So I don't think there is anything wrong with it, I don't see why he has to talk more, other than apparently for your benefit.
Some people just withdraw into themselves. He's tripping man, he's undergoing a fairly powerful experience, if he can't or doesn't want to talk then just let him be.

 

the limited conversation my friend and I had was just stupid on acid. Tripping is definitely a more personal thing imo

 

I agree with neo. Ask your friend if he even enjoys talking or finds any need to do so. Very likely he's just tripping balls and on another planet man.

Sounds like to me as well, he really doesn't care what you guys do, he's just going with the flow.

"Hey! Talk! Talk! Are you comfortable?? Are you enjoying your trip? Why aren't you talking!?!?"

Just make sure it doesn't turn into that.

 

i hate when people try to force conversations with me on acid, im really talkative on a low dose but after about 4 hits im clocked out

 

I've got a friend who sounds exactly like that. It always puts a lot of pressure on me and brings everything down. I realize he is just excited and is wanting to talk about what is happening, but it really does damper the situation when someone is trying to force you to do something.

 

Yeah man, just let him be... I get lip locked when I'm tripping sometimes.. I just don't have anything to say and I'm just trying to go where it's taking me. It's irritating and takes away from my trip when someone else is yammering on and I'm just in a zone and feel obligated to fabricate some sort of answer but can't really make coherent sentences. It doesn't bother me that much, but I could see how it could possibly send someone down a dark road while tripping if you're constantly coaxing answers out of someone in that state.

Just don't trip with him if it bores you or whatever...

 

I hate people who ask if I am okay, or if I am enjoying the experience. It always seems to happen at a point when you are beyond evaluation of harm to your mental body, but with no doubt filled entirely of energy in intensity. As if some kind of joke. I find it very ignorant of them. Especially if they're ones who have taken acid, but probably only a time or twice. Although when someone on the same level of intensity of me asks it, it's clearly a "freudian" slip indicating their insecurity.

I'm guessing that if this bothers someone, they have less sensitivity to psychedelics, and haven't even experienced an average trip, at least dulling that seriously linear thinking. Must have a thick head...

 

^ I know what you are saying but I think there is nothing wrong with asking especially if its someones first time on a new drug. Trip alone if you don't want to be bothered with questions because 95% of the time people ask the "are you ok?" question they are looking out for your well being. Conversely to what you said I usually only ask the question on drugs that I'm well experienced with because I know the range of possible feelings and emotions. In regards to LSD its a 12 hr. Ride with significant time distortion, if you get bent out of shape with someone asking if you are ok once or twice during the trip perhaps you are the one with the insecurities.

 

No. I don't get bent out of shape, I didn't say "When people ask those questions I find myself in a state of extreme fury and anger." Simply some people think something is wrong with you if you don't appear to be enjoying the experience. "Like dude, why aren't you having fun?" ... "Like dude why can't you realize I'm tripping face" Usually when they ask me those kinds of questions I say ... yea I'm okay, this is intense, it's not necessarily to be "enjoyed" ... but definitely appreciated.

Plus I'm really talking about the OP topic, when people want you to talk and explain your feelings during the trip. Like some non tripping girl, but who has some experience with acid, is there on one of my trips. "Why are you so quiet....tell me..what's going on in your head..." I think...."Seriously?" and I just repeat what the group is physically up to. That's all I can explain, that the group is on a walk. My mind is obviously flying and there are no words.


Perhaps it is an insecurity, obviously a psychedelic experience is insecurity. That's exactly what I'm saying, don't ask me a silly question when you know I'm having a very intense and challenging experience.

I'd say things are not okay when someone gets physically out of hand, and loses self control. Those are the real not okay situations... The rest doesn't need to be inquired into and thus amplify it. It sorts itself out....

Here's a question for you... If someone says they are not okay... What do you say? "You'll be okay...It's only the experience...it will pass...you are special"???? Any possible advice seems silly in the midst of an intense experience.

 

Yes I agree with everything you said from the second paragraph on, and to answer your question in the last paragraph I assure them it will end and usually offer to have a change of scenery, listen to some (different) music, offer them a jacket if they are cold, suggest to remove extra clothing if they are hot, etc.

But yea, to ask someone every detail to what they are thinking while tripping is kind of pointless and if you have tripped before you should know that, but I try to coax at least some conversation if I'm tripping. I've learned some interesting facts and knowledge from my close friends under the influence of LSD because it may be a topic they don't feel comfortable talking about sober. I'm not talking about personal info they regret telling me later, I'm talking more about a specific topic they are interested in that I may not be so they dont bring it up sober.

I think the "are you enjoying yourself?" question is asked to people tripping on LSD because it is hard to tell sometimes. Alot of times people look like they are confused on LSD with their eyes dialated and they have noticeable goosebumps and sometimes facial flushes.

 

I say he might be feeling suck... so just communicate with body language.

 

I have tried being there for people with me having a bad trip. You offer all the info and advice you can from the experience of your own negativity, but I've always found it helps for only a little bit (like 5 minutes if even), and then they usually drop back into the experience and forget.

Indeed it does help if it has much to do with setting, if you change that setting. I wont say it completely can't be helped.

I am also not the quiet type, so I don't entirely relate to this, but I find I go through phases during a trip, like one intense visual stage where words are hard to form, but then like on a plateau I find some extreme laughter and talkativity and then back into expressionlessness.

 

Agreed.

IF I were on a bad trip I would not try and offer help or check up on others unless they were doing something ridiculously stupid like walking naked in the middle of the road or something.