Satan

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by BraveSirRubin, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    We all dance dervish.
     
  2. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Did you mean you believe in Satan if Satan is a metaphor...? Me, too.
     
  3. Okiefreak

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    Well God and Jesus are real, too, and I've experienced them. In fact, I usually run into them at WalMart, where they seem to hang out a lot. So does Satan. Check them out.
     
  4. def zeppelin

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    Your Satan is not the true SATAN that I know Him to be. Your Satan is weak and is merely a follower of my SATAN. Open up your evil heart to Him and repent thine heathen man!!!
     
  5. Okiefreak

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    Which SATAN are you talking about? The one Sir Rubin has experienced or the one who hangs out with Jesus at WalMart?
     
  6. def zeppelin

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    I would say that the SATAN that Sir Rubin experienced was just that, as experience, an illusion of the mind.

    As for the Jesus at Walmart, yes even that Jesus at Walmart experiences the TRUE SATAN; He is just not aware. But it's there, and engulfs his spirit completely!
     
  7. themnax

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    if there were a "satan" and only a satan, it is illogical that we would exist. at all.
    satan, like god, and every other name for the unknown, are names and words we as humans made up ourselves. this doesn't mean there aren't or can't be invisible people, many but by no means all of them, more powerful then ourselves. it doesn't mean there can't be something big, friendly and invisible that gives great hugs, doesn't micro-manage, and isn't obliged to resemble what anyone pretends to know about it. but it does mean NOTHING out there, is under any obligation to resemble what anyone pretends to know about them either. nor is i'll intent any more probable then benign. though complete ignorance of and indifference to, our own existence is far more probably the majority of the case.

    nothing is all one way. but the unknown statistically can be demonstrated to have been consistently less harmful then the familiar.

    so again this notion of a satan, is far less likely then big invisible teddy bears. or rather, at least less likely to outnumber them. again because the least likely thing if it were, would be for us to exist, to ever have existed, at all.
     
  8. Jassieee

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    Believing in satan is just like believing in any other supernatural force, surely by believing in him you should believe in God as they are both as whack as each other.
     
  9. themnax

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    not really. the existence of things we know nothing about is far more likely then for none to do so. what we pretend to know ABOUT them, is of course another matter entirely.

    naturally every name we've invented for things we don't know is just that, a name we've invented. but you can be loved and hugged by invisible things we can't see or know what people pretend to about.
     
  10. Sweetleaf63

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    I agree.
     
  11. sathead

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    The JIHAD turned it's attention to deficit money talk. The money shall be for those who already know what to do with it.

    BY the way I bought this Papirus from Egypt. I have the money in the bank, but I also the scam on the field of ambitious taxable business.
     
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    has anybody thought that Lucifer(Satan) is the good one, and Jehovah(God) was the bad one?

    Maybe everybody is worshipping the wrong god??

    "The greatest feat the devil ever did, was convincing the world he doesnt exist"- Unknown
     
  13. stoney69

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    heavens become more spacious
     
  14. MyImagination

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    If you truly believe in Satan then you are neither agnostic or atheist. Sorry! :p
     
  15. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    if you'd rather call the unknown "satan" then "god",
    suit yourself. it's still just a frickin NAME.

    doesn't change a damd bit that BOTH are STILL
    just names PEOPLE MADE UP
    for what they/we DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT.

    now i believe there's something out there, a lot of little somethings,
    and one something only bigger then other somethings, that may or may not even be ONE something, and it doesn't have to do or be any of the things anyone has attributed to it.

    it doesn't have to be infallible, it doesn't have to have created anything, it doesn't have to have the slightest thing to do with anything anyone thinks they know about it.

    generally if you're nice to people there's a better chance, absolutely no guarantee, but a better CHANCE, they'll be nice back. big invisible people, even little invisible people, aren't too likely to be all that much different from that.

    all the names of demons and angels and all the rest of it, people made up stories to try and explain things to each other, and these seldom had anything to do with whatever personal experiences of the unknown they might have had.

    not even physical things, but how the way people treat each other, and a lot of things they wouldn't otherwise think about, and mostly still don't, combine to create how we experience things, or think we do.

    those names, they're just ways of telling stories, some of which may have valid and good points to them, but they're still just ways of telling stories, that have little to no likelihood, of having anything to do with anything that is actually out there, physically, or even spiritually.
     
  16. drew5147

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    We live in SATAN's small intestine.
     
  17. godhaunt

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    We live in satan's small intestine beyond freedom and dignity. William Barret commented something like that too.
     
  18. aidanspops85

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    jesus stole my girlfriend... does that make him evil and satan like
     
  19. HNW

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    Satan and God are metaphors in my book.
     
  20. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    Many believe that God is the metaphor for life and Satan is the metaphor for death and others believe that Satan is the true God.
     

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