I wanna try 2c-c, but I'm not 100% sure about the effects or dosage. Since this is my first time, how much should I take and what should I be expecting? Are there any after effects?
is this your first rc? Go to www.erowid.com for dosages either in the dose section or trip reports section.
snort if it you want to get something out of it. eyeballing is fine, do a mid sized line first and go from there (it will BURN initially to warn you). It reminds me a lot more of mushrooms than 2c-e does.
good call man. I've yet to do 2c-c but I haven't heard anything spectacular about it by itself. Alot of the rc heads think there is like a hiearichal order in which to try these, as if you need to work your way up or something. 2ce was the first 2c I tried, I did 20 mgs. If you have experience with other psychs go for that. If you don't 16 Mgs may be a better starting point. A very visual drug and music sounds good on it. You may experience some stomach cramps/nausea and like extra energy in your extremities. So don't prepare to run a marathon. If you take it outside have somewhere to sit and have water available.
2c-c is beautiful. if you wanna dose oral start at ~30mg...i'm sure you'll want to go up from there. it really shines if taken nasally [also REALLY burns] but that's where the magic is. if no scale, just take small bumps every few minutes until you're there eace: enjoy
I have only taken 2c-e once and didn't get the best feel for it because my environment was not right for it. But I think I could take 2c-c in any environment and have a decent (that's an exaduration. but in most environments.) And I have snorted and eaten it. Snorting it is like hell, and the first few minutes for me are sooo uncomfortable and just awkward but then a few minutes later I am laughing and enjoying myself and seeing prettyness. Eating it I still expeirienced some bodily awkwardness but still felt the huge mood lift and had visual distortions. If you have it I'd say both are worth trying. And I can't really give advice on 2c-e but I don't think I will be mentally or emotionally prepared to try it again for a long time.
2C-E is one of those weird ones. [Argued but not proven inherently dysphoric...] My first trip was a 100% breakthrough ego loss experience and it was totally beautiful and immensely pleasurable. This was a 25 mg oral dose with 6 snorted when we became impatient with the oral dose and we wanted to go to the moon anyways.... My second trip brought about demons and it was a very visual representation of hell and also a very bad way of looking at the "death/[re]birth" trip... "I'm in a horrible psychedelic trance." I repeated about a million times while I went from rolling around in agony to the fetal position to rolling around in agony in the fetal position back and forth while speaking my little line.... And overall I've done it probably 20-25 times, and I'd say there were two intensely awesome trips, probably 3 or 4 good but nothing special trips and 15 bad trips. What a ride but I doubt I'll be doing 2C-E again... It just feels caustic; a flesh dissolving horrible irritant. It's hard to find a "right environment" for 2C-E; but I tell you one thing... there are certain states of mind that are right and wrong to start a trip with.... but "Moderately drunk" is the ABSOLUTE 100% BEST place to start a 2C-E trip.... with every other psychedelic even the THOUGHT of alcohol stopped all visuals... but 2C-E... well it's going to be hard to stop visuals that intense, and I experienced slightly diminished but still HIGHLY INTENSE [> acid] visuals while drunk.
^ I certainly would not recommend drinking to someone with their first time on 2ce. That's just me. If you have pot available I think that is a better supplement to the experience. peter parkers doses sound much higher than mine and while 2ce can be overwhelming I've yet to find much mindfuck in it. I find shulgins "difficult yet worthwhile" description perfect for 2ce. I feel my mind is left relatively clear and it doesn't play on my insecurities and subconscious like LSD but that gives me more time to think about the physical discomfort and time distortion, but its a good psychedelic.
Thanks for the advice guys! Really the only psychedelic I've ever done is shrooms a few times, and of course pot if you count that. So I think I'm going to start with 10-15mg for my first time, to get a feel of how it is, then decide if I want to bump up the dosage or stay there. I have the perfect opportunity coming up in the next couple weeks so hopefully I'll be able to try it out then.
if you have any other questions about 2ce, feel free to ask. we've had lots of discussions about it, so you can search old threads or some of us will be so kind as to link you. 2ce was my first RC (i had tried shrooms, acid, and salvia before) and i started with 12 mg. that should be a good starting dose, although i'd say go for 14-16 mg here's my first 2ce trip report http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=334029&f=126
Well I think we started me too low. I wish I had taken a higher dose in a less populated environment. Now I am just sort of scared away from it but don't feel like I got the full experience. But I suppose you are probably suggesting the break through sorta dose but not much higher.
Any more words on the effects of 2C-C anyone? Looking at the 2C series now and need to figure out what I want. Looking for something mellow and relaxed, nice auditory and visual hallucinations but still capable of talking/socialising easily enough.
