Running Out of Fish

Lol, I knew I was contradicting myself

I just wanted to share another side to the discussion, I suppose :coffee:

 

I was referring to other parts, but no worries.

 

A few facts..

About 200 billion pounds of fish and shellfish are caught each year from the oceans. A world total of 86 million tons of fish and shellfish were captured in 2000.

For each pound of shrimp caught, 4 to 10 pounds of unwanted marine life-bycatch-are caught; most of which are discarded and die.

The number of fish that are wasted has reached 27 million tons per year.
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I got that info from Google in a five minute search. The oceans are not full of fish, they only live in certain places. And those places are being tore up bad. Fishermen are finding it harder, and harder to keep up with demand.

I don't think it will end until it's too late for them to recover. For some time now, i have reduced myself to a can of tuna once a month. But i think now i will just stop all together.

If everyone would stop consuming, the suppliers would have to stop. But what about all those jobs lost then? Families with no more income. I don't know.

Bottom line is, there are way too many people in the world today. And more are born every minute. What can be done about that?

 

Well, we could always do what China did :tongue:

 

People over there are being forced into sterilization now.

 

I did just mean the one child policy, not for people to be sterilised.

I'm not sure where I stand on that issue. I think people do have children too easily. The other day there was a programme where a family had 12 children and they kept having them because they wanted a girl. But, they didn't work and lived on benefits. I don't agree that people can have child after child and expect everyone else to pay for them.

But, that is way off topic!

 

I think this world is starting to fall onto its head a little bit.

It's great you have stopped eating as much fish (excluding the health benefits from eating it), but if you had to choose

would you rather people farmed this animals or caught them from the ocean? It seems that we are living in a world of mixed perceptions, and people who claim they want to put a cap on eating from our ocean cannot tolerate farming the creatures either (much like battery powered chicken coups).

What it the ideal solution to the problem? Double standards are hard to get passed these days.

Just curious as to what people would prefer

 

Why would you think that?

I know people who think wolves like lead rain from aircraft and that caribou like oil rigs and pipelines, and that Obama is still working on this big plan with concentration camps, demons, muslims, and kenyans. When will those silly scientists see that they don't really have a grasp on these things that are so simple all my classmates are bona fide experts?

 

Personal commitment. Use only what you really need. Do not hoard. There are no bargains in paying a little and expecting a lot in return.

 

Something I agree with you on

 

About 100 million people offing themselves would help alot. Aside from that, i don't know.

I would love to eat seafood every day if i could. I didn't know how farmed fish was raised until today. Problems there as well it seems.

I wish i had a solution to offer!

 

LOL, yeah, I have learned a little more about it myself, I must admit.

I guess it's only a matter of time until the pollution we cause poisons the fish we eat- then we've solved the problem of the 10 million people. Man is man's destruction

 

This is very very interesting about this topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EUAMe2ixCI"]YouTube- Dan Barber: How I fell in love with a fish

 

News Flash: As of 26 April 2010, the human population of the world is estimated by the United States Census Bureau to be 6,817,100,000.

That's allot of mouths to feed!

 

That video is very interesting.

 

I don't know where that statistic came from, but there is no part of the ice-free oceans that is not regularly fished. They use sonar to track the schools of fish and follow them wherever they go. The largest fishing nets currently in use are large enough to hold 13 large jet airliners. The fish have nowhere to run and nowhere to hide.

I wouldn't feel sorry for the fishing corporations if they put themselves out of business due to their own greed, but it is everyone that is going to lose access to affordable fish to eat. I don't think that politicians are paying attention to this problem because the voters don't care yet. It is not yet a well-known issue, unlike global warming that has been talked about for years.

We haven't had good data on worldwide fish populations and catches before 2003 because up until that time, China had been falsifying their statistics and no one knew about it. China is a large enough player in global fishing that their bogus numbers were greatly changing the world totals and averages.

 

We should just start mass cloning so we have an unlimited supply.

 

Trying to rally sport fishermen to stop surface longlining in the Gulf of Mexico. This same group attempted to close down the entire Coral Sea, including the famous giant black-marlin fishery off Cairns! In an effort to counteract this , we have in fact teamed up with the commercial sector to ensure that we can continue fishing!

 

Fish wanna survive, fish need to start fighting back. Sharks don't kill nearly as many people as they should per year, especially when shark attacks usually end up with a survivor.

 

As has been stated -it's the overpopulation of the earth. There is going to come a time when most animals will be gone. Forever. The organizations that are not for, or don't put much thought into population control ,will be forced-and I mean forced -to change. Chaos and dire shortages will ensue first ,as we humans usually wait until things are broken until attempts are made to fix them. Some things will not be fixable. Someone said "man will be man's demise". The systems of government and those with vast riches= power ,we have now seem to think we will get more land,water and animals and things will be hunky-fuckin' dory if we can just resume our inevitable rush to create more and more jobs and use the earth like we are. There's an end to all this and she's a-comin'. I'll be deader 'n hell,but my and your grand kids may see it. IT's inevitable. We'll either radically change the way we deal with population control--the way we view our resources-or else. Observe our present way of life-extend it to it's logical conclusion and see what you come up with.