Let's use Mimosa Rootbark as an example. We all know it contains DMT, but what form is the DMT inside the rootbark? I always assumed it was in a freebase form, and that there was no way for enzymes within a plant to really convert an alkaloid to a salt, but a friend brought up the question and it got me thinking. Is it even in any form in a plant? I mean, you can extract a freebase, or salt it instead of freeze percipitating it out (again using DMT as an example). Illuminate me
DMT in MHRB is, I believe the DMT salt of tannic acid. This may lead one to believe an acid is unnecessary for A/B but DMT HCl is much more water soluble, making it a much faster process.
OK, now on to Chem 101. Alkaloids are alkaline when in their free-base state. I.e. free-base alkaloids are alkaline/basic -and- have a net positive charge -and- a ph > 7. What a free-base looks like is (alkaloid)-OH Add acid (e.g. HCl) to an alkaloid and the H+ Hydrogen cation ( +proton) from the acid combines with the OH- hydroxy anion ( - ) like the North and South poles of a magnet (not really, but sorta) leaving the acid anion (CL-) attached to the alkaloid. (Which is no longer an alkaline free-base alkaloid, it is now an "acid salt".) PHEW! When you add an acid to an alkaloid, you get an "acid salt" (alkaloid)-Cl -and- a net negative charge -and- pH < 7. The free-base alkaloids are typically non-polar and do not have oppositely charged 'ends' (geometrically speaking) and are soluble in non-polar solvents like ether and naphtha. Due to the negative charge of the anion (Cl, e.g.) the acid salt has polarity, (sort of like a bar magnet) with positive and negative ends. Acid salts and other polar compounds are soluble in polar solvents, such as water. That's why you keep you cocaine-HCl dry and your crak craks (boiling, undesolved water). They now teach that to High School Chem students, don't they? (snicker) The DMT in mimosa is present as an acid salt "(DMT)-tannic acid" and can be extracted as-is with water (or vodka). (see DMT-nexus.com if you don't believe yer buddy Eon. Try searching for "water extract".)
is free base another world for alcohol? also, if anyone doubts that DMT can be extracted via water they've never heard of ayahuasca.
Aya is just an aqueous extract, but not a very efficient one. That's why it has to be boiled for so damn long. Orison got it dead on. It's in the form of DMT tannate in MHRB, which is a salt.
