napthla, napthla...

Discussion in 'DMT' started by Nocturnes, Apr 28, 2010.

  1. Nocturnes

    Nocturnes Member

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    So, I ran over to ace, and looked at the Napthla... Pretty much looks like the most lethal, burn-you-house-down stuff ive seen. What can i use as a substitute instead??
     
  2. noosphere

    noosphere Member

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    Just don't use it next to open flames and you'll be fine. You're only other options are xylene which is worse than naphtha, d-limonene which you probably will have to order online and it's kind of expensive, or some kind of alcohol but alcohols suck and are dangerous too.
    I've been using naphtha for a year and it's really safe if you're not a dumbass. I also think you can only do freeze precipitation with naphtha.
     
  3. gushtunkinflupped

    gushtunkinflupped Member

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    Pull with d-Limo! You get jungle spice which is soo much more than the white.
     
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    d-limonene can be found in industry floor cleaners.. look for business that sell them to the janitors..
     
  5. mad-shatter

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    Trust me, there is nothing to worry about using naphtha in a calm controlled environment, unless you're using a sparkler to light a cig, while a firebreather starts a fire works show in your house which has frequently has molotovs flying through the window......
    Message.. You'll be fine, just no open flames in the evap area. Naphtha doesn't even have much of an odor so you don't have to worry about your house smelling like a woodworking/ painting shop with xylene, which is much more volatile.
     
  6. mdbnkc

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    to say naptha doesn't have an odor is a lie imo. no offense but I use naptha every time I extract DMT. After I freeze precepitate and filter I let all the remaining naptha evaporate to get the jungle alkaloids and the DMT still in solution and the shit stinks. When I evaporate the naptha, unless I put it outside it makes half my apartment smell like naptha.

    Naptha works wonders though and is the most available solvent in my area for extracting deem and is not really a hazard unless you are splashing it around and it gets in your eyes, drinking it, or have an open flame nearby. D-limonene has the advantage of smelling like oranges so it's pretty inconspicuous and pulling the full spectrum of alkaloids which is much deeper than white DMT imo.
     
  7. mad-shatter

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    Ah, I had meant when working with the naphtha to extract, not when evapping. I would hope most know to always evap solvents outside or using ventilation blowing out. Xylene will have a house smelling of solvent if left in an open container or spilled, just saying naphtha is less permeating if that is of concern..
     
  8. mdbnkc

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    ya naptha definately doesn't have as strong of a smell as xylene. it just seemed like you were saying naptha doesn't smell. I just didn't want him to get some naptha because he thought it doesn't smell when d-limonene would be a better substitute for that reason.
     
  9. Xora

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    Its not a strong smell, I have done the extraction using N in a studio apartment with safety.
     
  10. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Hello,

    You need a non-polar solvent. d-limo, as mentioned is food grade and will work, but you'll get full spectrum goo (this can be converted back to freebase). i'm no chemist, but as far as i can tell, all the non-polar solvents are nasty, burn your house down stuff. Naptha seems to be one of the milder smelling ones, if you can believe it.

    Use LOTS of fans. Turn off all pilot lights. Heat naptha using a crock pot. No crock pot? No problem. Use a series of hot water baths - hot water right out of the tap.

    Ahem, don't smoke, cook or spark anything while working with np solvents. Lots of ventilation and please remember those double-cartridge respirators. Those fumes are carcinogenic.

    Peace & Love,
    Spicey Cat
     
  11. ancient powers

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    Naphtha is pure lighter fluid. It evaporates very clean. I heard coleman fuel is clean too. I am working with a clean tek for producing good clean alkaloid extractions.

    D-limonene is a very good substitute for xylene which according to urban legend will extract a so called jungle spice from MHRB.

    Testing in my lab will reveal someday.
     
  12. ancient powers

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    There is 50g dried skin powder per 1 foot cacti. The alkaloid content is 1% average for the dried weight of Pachanoi skins. So there is 500mg alkaloids per 1 foot Pachanoi. Mescaline is 50% the total alkaloids making 250mg mescaline per 1 foot Pachanoi. Some day I will test another var. and let you guys know.

    Finely powder up to 100g SP powder or 5x concentrated extract in your electric coffee grinder. Remove cover carefully, turn upside down and tap out powder. Add powder to a clean 2 quart HDPE2 ammonia bottle using a funnel. Add 1600ml regular tap water and shake to mix. Add 3tbsp of NaOH 1tbsp at a time with a dry funnel capping and shaking after each tbsp. Add 500ml xylene or d-limonene and shake for 5min. Make sure to secure cap each time when shaking.

    Allow mixture to set overnite to fully seperate. After full seperation siphon off upper xylene layer with a length of clear plastic tubing into a glass pint jar. Drill a hole in a extra ammonia bottle cap and put your clear tubing through it to hold the tubing still while you quickly start the syphoning process.

    Fill jar to the 300ml mark. Carefully pour 2oz distilled water into the salting jar of xylene or d-limonene extract. Add 2 drops of muratic pool acid to the salting jar. Cap and shake for 5min. Seperate using a quart ziplock baggie by hanging bag from one top corner and clipping a small cut in the bottom corner with scissors to slowly seperate solution.

    Collect the bottom water layer into the salting jar and fresh solvant to the ammonia jug. Repeat the extraction 4x adding 1tbsp of NaOH after each pull. Pachanoi powder is 1% alkaloids. That is 1g alkaloids per 100gs SP powder.

    Add 2oz of fresh xylene to the salting jar and shake for 5 min to remove any impurities in the water layer. Put jar in the freezer to freeze the bottom water layer solid. Pour off xylene, swirl a little fresh distilled water and pour off then wipe the inside of the jar with a paper towel to remove any excess xylene or d-limonene. Melt ice layer in a bath of hot water on the stove or allow to melt at room temp. Add fresh xylene or d-limonene, shake and pour the mixture into a quart ziplock and reseperate cutting the smallest hole possible to ensure flow control.

    Seperate water layer onto a large glass baking dish, discard xylene or d-limonene and evaporate dish in a 150F oven for about 2hrs or until dry. Allow dish to cool at room temperature then scrape and capsulize in '0' caspsules for 350mg doses of clean hcl cactus alkaloids.

    For higher yields cook 500gs of powder 3x20min in fresh vitamin c water. Add 1tbsp of vitamin c powder per 1 liter of water used. Just simmer for 20min strain and recook pulp. This is done 3x and the volume of extract is combined, filtered, reduced, evaporated, dried and powdered in a coffee grinder to make a 5x extract. The tek is then applied with the 5x concentrated extract to yield 5gs cacti alkaloids.

    Replace xylene with naphtha to extract psilocybin, DMT, harmaline, cocaine, morphine and ephedrine.
     
  13. 36fuckin5

    36fuckin5 Alchemycologist

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    Just use the damn naptha. It's not that dangerous if you just vent your fumes or do it outside. Even 2 open windows on opposite sides of the room will work.
     
  14. Chris92

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    So my friend is getting some mimosa in the mail soon and already has some caapi. Neither of us have worked with dmt so far, but he wants me to help him out with the extraction since I aced highschool chemistry, don't really think this helps though lol. My one question is we'll probably be doing the extraction in his bedroom and from what I've read napthla obviously has some odor to it. Will it be so bad that, even if we keep his door closed and windows open, the odor will seep into his house? Also I read somewhere about turning off pilot lights. If the pilot lights nowhere near his bedroom is this necessary?
     
  15. mdbnkc

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    I don't think it will seep in the house and wouldn't worry about the smelll in general if doing it outside.
     
  16. shermin

    shermin Bazooka Tooth

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    OMS [odorless mineral spirites] works great for dmt extracts, and it's pretty safe. i use it to thin oil paint. you can get it at the hardware store.

    and i have a friend who's dad was helping him with a dmt extract and the naptha ended up catching fire...so i'll stick with OMS.
     

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