Preferably in bed. discuss... Oh yeah it is the woman's obligation to swallow every drop of cum when she is giving the man a blow job. Edit: I did not bump this. Arrrggg. A ghost from my thread past!
that is congruent with our biological 'hardwiring', regardless of what most women will claim. that's how it was for thousands of years throughout the course of human development, during the hunter-gatherer period and well into modern industrialized society. but I don't think women should be prohibited from working or something, it's really up to the individual and/or couple. the basic needs haven't really changed. if a man can provide the right things, which is more or less being a strong, alpha male type (security and safety), a sufficient amount of money and lifestyle enhancents (security and comfort), and some ability to form or climb social heirarchies (security and potential for offspring/genes to survive/spread). if those needs are sufficiently met, a lot of nice women would be more than happy staying home and popping out babies. but I also know a lot of women who have successful careers, and would be out of place and not happy in those situations.
hey mr. mom, how did the brownies turn out? did you pick up the kids on time? get those dishes cleaned and laundry finished? and, btw, did you make sure dinner was ready when your wife/girlfriend came home from work?
Women are better at multitasking, there are some jobs that benefit from that, and there are some kinds of children (like some of the autistic ones) who benefit from the focus that men tend toward. so, though in a statistical sense, that may be true, mileage may vary.
"Time is the only commodity" a russian monk(no not rasputin)was on the tv. he was doing some craft project. he said that for free time to be put to best use, one must immerse one's self in a sense of timelessness. another digression: i am in total denial of time. i cannot bear the feeling of the passage of time. watching a second and minute hand on an old clock drives me to deep anxiety and depression. i am like the extreme ocd character in one my favorite movies "david and lisa"(original, circa 1962). except i don't have ocd but am neurotic to the point of disfunctional. i don't have a clock or watch in my apartment. and of course i always hide the clock that most people keep visible in the bottom right hand corner of most computer screens(at least with windows os. i don't have any experience with any other os)
Of course some are better at it. They manage to do all of that and get to keep the house. How much better can you get.
Interesting post and one I enjoyed reading. I think I am a mixture of both sides. I am very traditional in many ways but not in others. Probably not that different from a lot of people. I have been fortunate that the career I chose allowed me to make choices and I have been able to be home with my kids. My ex and I have always agreed on pretty well all issues with the kids and financial has never been an issue. I could not of just stayed home and not had an outlet for self. I loved being home and mom but also I worked many years to establish a career. It worked out as I could combine them. My current partner and I also tend to have a rather traditional pattern of living.
After Watching Numerous Friends Go Through Dirty, Hateful, And Spiteful Divorce Process's Over The Past Few Years, I Regretfully, Must Agree With This Post..100%... Cheers Glen.
wow..there sure is some 3 dollar words being thrown around up there i will take a different approach... no fucking way that things will ever go back to the unknown americans description of the cleavers... we are heading to complete equality in every way imaginable and if adam cant multi task like eve can...then he is fucked by the way...i multi task just fine
I'm sure you do darling! Every family situation is different, two wage earners ( either being the main breadwinner) one main bacon bringer homer etc. Every one has to adapt to whatever their situation is. Clearly defined roles no longer exist in my opinion. It's all hands to the pump.
I agree with you. I think each family has to work out the dynamics that work for them. Be it financial or division of labour.
This whole issue is about more then just who should work. It is also about family structure, social taboos and gender identifications. The idea that someone has their life planned out from birth because of the outward gender they have is 100% ridiculous... I've met women who did typically 'man jobs' better then any guy who ever did it, just as I've met many guys who were better at the domestic end of life then most women are, and pretty much everything in between. Then of course there is the idea that life is all about a man and woman getting married and popping kids out... Beyond the various combinations of couples, there are also non-couples, from triads to completely open marriages. I always find it funny how some people equate the 50's ideal of life as 'traditional'... I'd like to see some of you who think that women are somehow less capable or more suited to a domestic life of child rearing and house cleaning tell that to your great great grandmothers that worked out in the feilds beside your grandfather, or sometimes in replace of him that she wasn't 'suited' to physical labor and should go back to the kitchen... First she'd likely drop you on your head just for shits and giggles and then take your suggestion and go in and take a break at the kitchen table... Oddest thing about all this is that when I look for a partner in life, I don't do so on the basis of wether or not she will cook and clean for me... I base it on whether or not we will increase our own happiness being with each other.
You are woman, we hear you roar. It's just because you're such an evolved mind Tom that you find it odd, only you can honestly understand the plight of women and only you understand the meaning of love.
Oooo, tell all this to the generation of women that lived through WWII, they kept this country running.. Also i find this a funny thread, haha..
I hope every one else has also inferred that the smilies at the end of the OP indicate that this thread is a half assed attempt at trolling.
I think it is meant to be. I wasn't really having a go at you anyway, you didn't jump on a high horse, you just made your own joke back. But it doesn't take a genius to work out who i am consistently finding myself in disagreement with.
Yup, that was the turning point, when women discovered that they could do anythng they set their minds to. Then the soldiers came home and women were told to go back to their kitchens...and they didn't want to.