the 12 tribes?? so tell me what ya know??

seemed a fitting place to ask..

http://www.twelvetribes.com/whoweare/ourbeliefs.html


from what i gather they enjoy beating there children then dancing round an praisin jesus..?



http://www.rickross.com/reference/tribes/tribes24.html


http://www.twelvetribes-ex.org/

 

I've heard similiar things from other sources. This organization is a cult with a Christian Hippie veneer.

 

thanks for the warnings!
sigh
peace
Delfynasa

 

Is this fact? The twelve tribes of Israel may refer to a racial ethnic mix from past reverence for ancestry. But why the number twelve? Are there twelve constellations in the zodiac? There were twelve apostles, and for that Jesus needed to reduce the number from thirteen. 1 and then 2 gives the symbolic fulfillment of twelve. rettyplease:

 

This isn't exclusive to them (most religions follow this), but I thought it was worth a chuckle...

bolding is mine...

If 'they' tell you, and you don't believe them, yer going to burn...

Even if you are the evilest bastard in the world, as long as at some point you 'see the light', you'll not only be saved, but will be in charge...

As always, people flock to those who claim they will 'save their soul'...

sad...

 

i have encountered them several times out on the road, that is a weird group, if some amish looking motherfuckers in a multicolored bus try to give you their "hippy-crit" newspaper and invite you in for tea you better run.

 

it has nothing to do with astrology.

 

Ive run into them a few times on the road myself. They have a nice bus, probably several, that they take to shows. They dole out tea and spread their nonsense about "yeshua." I've heard nothing but bad things from kids i've met that found themselves mixed up with these people. One guy I met joined them with his wife and two kids. As time went on he got into an argument with some of them and they threw him out. Within days they had his wife arranged to marry another member and they moved her somewhere else, he still hasn't seen his kids.

They run coffee shops around the country, one of them, Common Grounds is located in my old neighborhood in boston. Also from what I understand have a plantation in south america (sounds kinda jim jones like to me).

 

Seriously it is a screwed up group. The first time I encountered them was on a rainy day in Berkeley, right out of banjo lessons in 11th grade, there on telegraph ave slangin lucey to some heads I encounter this hippy looking dude with a beard, long hair and totally homespun looking get-up. he tells me about his family and all this lovey dovey hippy dippy shit about the farm and how groovy the land is and some other shit. somehow I end up on a bus, a Further bus looking knockoff paired with a revamped 50ies grayhound. it was lined with couches, which were covered in deerhides and walls covered with exotic hardwoods. their trippy bus interior didnt seem to vibe with what they spoke of.
I dont even want to begin with the whole yashua shit and the 12 tribes view on love, holy fuckin shit.

 

there's so much misinformation on this group it's unbelievable. and the group itself doesn't really care much for the thoughtless banters and accusations that are thrown against them so they don't worry about it and don't try to respond to any of them. it seems to me like alot of people go visit them and then get butthurt because they thought they had an idea of what life was about and then get completely refuted.

i've stayed with them in the past. i experienced no 'pressure' to join their group, and all of the things that were asked of me were perfectly reasonable, and their elders being very friendly people with alot of very wise things to say. not 'corrupt' in any way. you can run right up to spriggs and give him a big hug if you want to.

the idea of these people being evil and mindcontrolling makes me lol.

but what i do see is that alot of weak-willed people might get drawn in. this is no place for a weakwilled person, unless you are willing to take a thing or two from someone that is wiser and stronger willed than you are, and trust their judgement.

i wouldn't classify them as a cult at all. cults are dangerous. these people just want to help, and will do so without any regard to personal gain.

 

^Then how the fuck do you explain the horror stories surrounding this cult? Made up bullshit or twists of reality by the "weak minded" who could not handle it?

Sure I have seen them help or act kindly to people outside of shows but these people are truly bizarre. They don't even go into the fucking show, they just sit outside and hand out their bogus propaganda.

You have to understand that their recruiting and brainwashing process is slow and less obvious at first (as it is with all such cults) and it is obvious how it has already affected you.

Do you honestly beleive they travel from show to show (even though they don't go see the music) just to hand out cookies, invite you in for tea and just generally be good people? Yeah right.

 

Also part of the classification of being a cult is not "being dangerous".


and I'd like to ad just because they aren't committing murders and hiding out in the desert doesn't mean that they aren't dangerous.

 

they go to from show to show to meet people and to spread information about their community in hope that someone might come live with them and join their community. just because they want people to share in their life does that make them a cult?

what do you mean all the horror stories? alot of the things that people say about them in the media is twisted truth created by misinformed individuals lacking complete information that made presumptions based out of fear, or people who have a biased grudgeous view.

look into the history of the island pond raid, or any other kind of governmental action against the community. it was all founded out of hysteria.

 

The twelve tribes are cousins to the seven dwarfs, days of the week? Repeating numbers are cyclical.

 

I have met them on the road as well, a few times, and talked with some a little bit. Likable people, kind of. Very convinced and determined at the same time. I always want to know what is the idea behind a thing, what's the philosophy, just to get an understanding of what's going on and maybe I can learn something new this way. But they kept repeating "There is no philosophy. Just love." In Finland where I'm from and currently at, we have a saying: 'Don't go over where the fence is the lowest.' That sums up the impression I have of what they told me.