Spicey Cat Short Rant - Why DMT is Better Than Church

Discussion in 'DMT' started by Spicey Cat, May 20, 2010.

  1. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Yeah, i smoke a lot of DMT. i have some interesting, some might say, schizo theories that stem from this.

    One thing i have come to conclude was that my strong atheism was misguided and incorrect. Many people, drugs and books tried to convert me over a period of decades but it was a powerful, mystical, five-minute DMT breakthrough that flipped the switch. i was converted by a molecule.

    One reason i never liked traditional churches was the call for faith. i enjoyed things like math and science and identified as at least somewhat left brained. Faith didn't cut it. i wanted either direct measurable or directly experiential evidence and no one had it. Until i tried DMT that is.

    i bow to the shade of T. McKenna here - i've absorbed a lot of his material and there may or may not be plegiarism. Non intentional, i assure you - this all comes directly from the heart and soul.

    Here is what i wrote soon after an intense spice session one day. i now call it Why DMT is Better Than Church:

    The spice is the REAL DEAL. It is where the rubber meets the road. There is and can be no bullshit factor here. The healing really is there, even in the rougher and more challenging experiences. What i personally like is coming from a background of brutal, rock-solid, hard-core and ice-cold atheism and skepticism. For close to 35 years. Enter DMT. The real deal does not ask for or demand FAITH. The real deal does not dictate a lifestyle, but it offers subtle and not-so-subtle pointers and guidances. The real deal does not offer a book written by archaic men. It is in plants, animals and US. It offers us high-energy, undeniable, profound DIRECT EXPERIENCE.

    And thus ends my rant.

    Peace.

    Spicey Cat
    -Meow!
     
  2. MosesReeds

    MosesReeds Member

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    So what you're telling me is next time I come across DMT, do it.
    Gotcha. I can do that.
     
  3. Ancient One

    Ancient One Member

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    Being fooled by a chemical into believing isnt real. However, chemicals have convinced my hardcore atheism into realizing (grudgingly) that belief is much prettier than harsh reality, and is thus a necessity to living "life" fully. Everything is an illusion; belief is required to make things real...
     
  4. Magical mystery tourguide

    Magical mystery tourguide Senior Member

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    I don't see how the DMT experience points to any sort of god, or supernatural force at all - it's all just higher forms of awareness.
     
  5. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    i have never encountered evidence of Gods or Godesses in hyperspace. These are Earth-bound creations. There is something higher going on dimensionally than we cannot perceive with our senses and machines. The DMT experience gives me a very direct experience of this.

    Not to insult anyone specifically, but compare this to taking communion in a Catholic service. Also hearing a sermon from someone who is faithful and educated but has likely NOT had a direct mystical experience . . .

    So, i guess i agree with you.

    Spicey Cat
    -Meow!
     
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  7. Magical mystery tourguide

    Magical mystery tourguide Senior Member

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    don't even get me started on religion... it angers me so much that people are still so weak where they need to believe in an invisible friend to get them through life... there's no point in having debates with creationists, their logic is just absurd its so laughable.

    to quote karl marx: "religion is the opiate of the masses" - spot on.
     
  8. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    DMT is something totally different than church and religion.
    It's just a drug, what you perceive on it may or may not be true. It offers you "direct peception" but you have no way of knowing if that is the direct perception of "truth" or the direct perception of complete and utter imaginative bullshit created by a brain under the influence of a powerful drug.
    Church and religion are about devotion and faith. It's truly a sorry sight when the youth of the world doesn't understand the meaning of fully devoting one's being to something purely on principle and faith, particularly when it is not completely understood.


    Judging from this paragraph, I probably shouldn't get you started on religion - it would indeed be a waste of time.
    The only thing more laughable than "creationist's absurd logic" is the anger that you feel.
    The only reason you feel anger toward the devout's perceived "weakness" is because either you realize that these people embody noble qualities that you don't comprehend and are unable to reconcile the fact that they are admirable in some ways even though their beliefs are at odds with your own belief system, or because you actually feel weak in your beliefs on a deep level and you realize that you cannot muster up the devotion towards your beliefs that these people can towards theirs, even though you think they are "wrong".
    Anger is just a way for fear to empower itself, the fact that a person's beliefs make you angry says a lot about the kind of person you are.
     
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    christ symbolizes dying for something you believe in and being ridiculed by others..
     
  10. spexxx

    spexxx Member

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    DMT has made me believe in Space Aliens controlling my every thought and this has definitely changed my life for the better! :)
     
  11. Smitty25

    Smitty25 Senior Member

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    For the better?...huh....alright :).
     
  12. ElfSpice

    ElfSpice Member

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    You speak the truth.
     
  13. porkstock41

    porkstock41 Every time across from me...not there!

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    in what way do you mean the DMT experience is a "higher" form of awareness? higher in the fact that you are high?:p i can agree that it's different..but not really more valid or "better"
     
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