so is anybody else concerned with the direction the USA is heading?

now with the financial reform being passed by the senate, the healthcare reform, as well as a few other notable issues, it seems that we are heading for a state of total government control. Is anybody else concerned about their freedoms and when the government over steps their boundaries?

 

The government is simply reeling in big business and the billionaire entrepreneurs who have been running
rough shot over the american people for 200 years

The disaster in gulf is a prime example of big business policing itself and now the gulf of mexico
and all of its its marine inhabitants are permanently and irrevocably fucked


Hotwater

 

Except for the huge gray area between minor regulation and totalitarian state.

You can probably stop jerking your knee know.

 

So concerned I left the USA. Next I will be turning in my passport.

Aside from family and friends (and tax obligations) I have no ties to the states anymore.

True freedom is only available to people with resources.

But the writing is on the wall. The house of cards will fall within a few years.

It is to late for the USA, but the strong individual can still rise and live beyond the restriction.

Better that than suffer the collective destiny of the masses.

 

I.E. A rat fleeing a sinking ship


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Interesting analogy.

Very poetic justice for the rats, if the ship is sinking all that awaits the rats is an ocean of cold death.

I am more like the cat who jumped ship before it left shore.

 

Am I concerned about it, quite simply no. For I am Canadian.

GOD KEEP OUR LAND...GLORIOUS AND FREE!



To hell with the states. They did it to themselves.

 

Tell that to Marc Emery.

Your government just handed him to the USA. How free is that?

Yes the states did it to themselves but the entire world will pay the price.

 

This.

 

Which would of not happened if the US had not only filed all the charges but also insisted that he be extradited.

If he had not of been shipping into the states that would of not happened either.

 

I am not concerned about health care reform as it is long overdue. The negatives are far out weighed by the benefits of having it in place. It will hurt insurers, and that is long overdue.

Concerning financial, it is very worrisome. World markets will be influenced and there will be fall out in the long run over many of the articles within the bills. The bail outs just about brought the markets down, given a little time this could just do it.

As far as freedoms, that is just an illusion. You have freedoms as long as it is on par with what is deemed to be acceptable. This is not new, the only difference is that the general public is more aware of the issues as with the technology that is available today it is far more accessible for people to know how screwed they really are if they are to go against what is an acceptable norm.

 

I am not going to justify what Marc did. In fact the way he did it was totally stupid.

But the problem is that the government of Canada has no backbone at all.

They need to look at the USA and say, "No". But they don't have the balls.

The USA insisting something means nothing. The world needs to stand up and say no.

The USA is not the global police.

How many Canadians have died for the USA's war in Afghanistan and Iraq? Why?

 

IMO the problem is that is should be legalized in both countries and it is not. All procedures were followed as far as appeals here for him to not be extradited and he is was the largest obstacle in his own defense. That the amount of money was wasted by both governments over something that will not stop no matter who they make an example of is ridiculous. That is what it came down to in my opinion, an example.

The United States is not exactly known for compromise. So like it or not they are a world power and that is the fault of all countries who have over a long period of time handed it them. Who then do you blame, it is equal blame. I no more trust in the powers that be here than I do in those in other countries. Every government is self serving.

As far as the war, one death was too many as the war was totally unjustified by world standards and if it were any other dictator who did that they would be considered a war criminal and tried. Bush never was and he will not be. Nor will Blair and he is just as tarred as Bush. Canada did not go in at the beginning as our government did not commit more than peace keeping troops. That did very little as it is impossible to keep peace in those situations and being killed in the line of duty means you are still dead be it combat or peace keeping.

The war on terrorisms is a joke as the two biggest terrorists in the world are walking free.

Sad lesson that is never ending for all of our so called tolerance and enlightenment.

 

I'd be much more concerned with unregulated derivatives markets being all that support our fraudulent banking systems collapsing rather than a trillion dollar healthcare bill.

But I'm leaving the country in December, so assuming It doesn't become a dystopia nightmare where I have to eat flesh before then...

 

I never thought I would live long enough to see Americans give up their freedoms without a fight, but with the election of 2008 I saw Americans willing to accept slavery instead of freedom. What are you willing to die for? Slavery or Freedom? As long as we the people accept socialism we are headed for the greatest period of slavery the world has ever known and many will be executed when they fight it. I would rather die free than be anyone's slave.

 

What does the 2008 election have to do with socialism? Because Obama wants to make sure all Americans get healthcare? Is that what you are referring to? Why is it that when the United States tries to keep in mind the poor and underserved everybody stars screaming "socialism" and why is that supposed to be such an insult? People need to keep in mind that there are three types of governments: capitalist, socialist and communist. Communism and socialism are not synonyms as so many Americans seem to think. and yes...I can understand how some people might say that socialism is just one step closer to communism but for real with all of the private industries and huge money making franchises in this country we wont stop being capitalistic any time soon. Making sure that people have access to health care is not going to ruin our country.

 

yes, i am concerned. i may move to China

 

Yes, I am concerned, not that I care a great deal about the USA, but how this madness all plays out will affect the whole world.

I also feel bad for the hundreds of millions who are effectively enslaved and yet swallow catchphrases and slogans like "Change" and "Freedom" whole.

Then I'm appalled by the current state of the "economy," more at the fact that so-called leaders worldwide have accepted a monetary system that only serves to empower the richest of the rich, than at the economy itself; inherent in the nature of the system is its inevitable collapse. Of course the filthmongers aim to capitalize on this collapse and further cement their positions of power, and ideally I guess they would like to utterly enslave humankind.

The direction the filthmongers want to take the US is the same one they have in mind for the rest of the world. I'm not having it, and it would really help us all if the American people woke up.

 

If there was no regulation, big business would control everything and everyone. People would exploit the environment and other living creatures to the ultimate maximum possible level.

If people weren't so selfish and cruel, there wouldn't need to be regulation and we would all just care for each other and the environment... but that isn't so.

 

Not that I agree with all the regulations, but personally I am glad to live in the U.S. despite it's problems. Of course it is very unfashionable nowadays to not despise the U.S. so I am sure I am very uncool.