Ayahuasca: Take 3!

Discussion in 'DMT' started by Father_Of_Peace, May 21, 2010.

  1. Father_Of_Peace

    Father_Of_Peace Member

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    This will be my third time experiencing the effects of ayahuasca. My first batch was a slight failure because I decided to rush through and didn't boil the reagents 3 times. The second round was good quality, but it was shortly after the first and I forgot to consider the rapid tolerance build-up. I just finished cooking and drinking my third batch.

    30g Mimosa Hostilis
    5.5g Syrian Rue seeds
    1 Lemon

    I cooked and strained it three times and then boiled the liquid down into a bearable quantity. It was disgusting lol! This is twice as strong as the last batch I made. I'm really trying to have the type of out-of-body experience that this brew is famous for. I've been pretty far out there with psychedelics, but I'd like to take it to the next level and experience a whole new universe.

    It's been about 30 minutes. I'm excited to see where this takes me :)
     
  2. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    i am intrigued. What happened? 30 grams of MHRB is a HUGE dose, like 10x what most people start with. But most also use B. Caapi, since Rue is known as being so harsh and such a "mind fuck."

    Have you ever tried pharmahuasca? How about smoked DMT?

    Peace.

    Spicey Cat
    -Meow!
     
  3. Father_Of_Peace

    Father_Of_Peace Member

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    I'm really starting to think I've been doing something wrong. Last night I was definitely feeling the effects but it was no stronger than my second batch (15g). I waited a week this time to help reduce my tolerance. Do you think I should wait longer in between doses? Also, I've never tried pharmahuasca but it's a great idea. I've got the DMT extraction down very well, but I'm not too sure about the source of MAOIs. I might just have to try smoking it again, as harsh as it is.

    BUT,

    Does the active chemical get destroyed or evaporate if the brew is allowed to:

    1) Boil violently for any period of time?
    2) Boil down into a very small quantity in which case theres a better chance of it sitting on the bottom and dealing with excessive heat?

    I know I'm doing SOMETHING wrong because 30g should have been a very decent dose if not overwhelming. What do you think? :confused:
     
  4. Spicey Cat

    Spicey Cat DMT Witch (says husband)

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    Hi Father_of_Peace,

    i am not an aya expert, but i suspect you have inactive/weak ingredients or are brewing incorrectly.

    It is definately NOT a tolerance issue. You do NOT need to wait days. You can dose with aya every single day. You can dose with aya or pharma, then periodically re-dose with MAOI and/or DMT and literally trip for days (beware of bizarre behavior and schizo style thinking patterns).

    Again, not an expert, but it thought simmering and very gentle boil/reducing was the idea. Thats one reason you have to stay with it, monitor it, not walk away, etc.

    Also, i have heard it can take many many tries with aya medicine to get to know it and your dose. Please do not give up.

    Regarding pharma, glad to hear you have DMT extraction down. There are many options for MAOI, including the harsh teacher Syrian Rue (P. Harmala) and the gentler Vine (B. Caapi), but i must admit i LOVE chemistry (without knowing much about it) so i prefer the isolated freebase THH (tetrahydroharmine) - not sure if i'm allowed to list sources, so just Google it and you'll find the one and only vendor out there. It's about $48 or so a gram. Take 200 mg oral to get full inhibition.

    Spicey Cat
    -Meow!
     
  5. Father_Of_Peace

    Father_Of_Peace Member

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    I wasn't thinking about giving up. More like taking a break. We'll see. :)

    Anyway, next time I'm going to use the same 30g to 5.5g brew, cook it very slowly and never let it leave my site. Also, I'll try not to eat for at least 12 hours if not 24 hours before I dose up. (I ate maybe 4-5 hours before I dosed last time)

    Pharma doesn't interest me so much right now (as clean and simple as it is) and I'd like to get this method right first.

    Thanks for your attention :)
     
  6. The_Man_On_The_Hill

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    I would focus more on the method. I mean 30g of MHRB, jesus fucking christ man! That is way much too much. I used to use 8g to get a good connection. But the highest i've gone so far is 14g and i went blind for a while. Literal meaning, my eyesight was nearly overtaken by color and distorted reality, 30g would fuck your head clean off in my opinion. Are you putting vitamin C in your mixture?? If not that may be a problem.. I use 500mg vitamin C pills in each tank... I posted a thread few months back, detailing everything start to finish, on preparing aya. If intersted ill find it for you.One thing to remeber too, this isnt a recreatinonal social drug like heroin, when I cook/prepare for my journey I stand on my feet for 2 hours straight staring at the pot of simmering substance praying and chanting, speaking aloud positively to the ayahuasca gate keepeer. In other words i dont just set it and forget it. I put ALL my attention when preparing, its a vital key.I'd start with 7-10g first time, and get good quality root bark. There a world of difference between $10 bark and $70 bark, ya dig? :)Peace
     

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