dreads are blowin in the wind

bobsaget · May 25, 2010

TipsyGypsy said:

Aww that is cute

If I ever see a male black widow, I will think very differently of him!
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With respect to my last post, this is a prime example of how one can let a simple abstraction shape the way in which they live, furthering themself down the path of the unnatural.

TipsyGypsy · May 25, 2010

bobsaget said:

With respect to my last post, this is a prime example of how one can let a simple abstraction shape the way in which they live, furthering themself down the path of the unnatural.
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You clearly know nothing of the way I view spiders

Or understand a joke.

bobsaget · May 25, 2010

TipsyGypsy said:

You clearly know nothing of the way I view spiders

Or understand a joke.
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You're probably right.

RooRshack · May 25, 2010

bobsaget said:

Just because I have used the word "we," it is not implied that I exhibit such behavior myself. "We" is used collectively for the human race, as to not say "they" in an attempt to not distinguish myself as a non-human of sorts, because that is what that would imply. But, yes, I think it is humorous when a human would call a dog "happy" or a cat "frisky" as their behavior is neither - it is simply their behavior. It may be hard for one to wrap their head around the fact that since these animals, these beings of nature, do not know the meaning of such word themselves, they are not exhibiting such behavior in the fashion that some humans seem to think. Natural animals do not act, they simply do. They do not exhibit happiness or remorse, their behaviors are triggered responses to outside occurrence. A natural animal does not live to achieve, or live to fulfill a goal, it simply lives. Therefore, when we label them with such pointless words such as "happy" or say that they "serenade" one another, as the person I had quoted earlier did, what we are doing is not describing them, but abstracting the Way things are.

You see, there are two planes of evolution: the physical and the mental. Once something has evolved in such a way that it has almost completely adapted to its environment and there is little to no more room for physical evolution, said creature may begin, if possible, evolution of the mind. We, as humans, were lucky, or unlucky if you look at it from a different perspective, enough to be the first creatures to do so. Once said mental evolution starts, cast aside is the notion of the simple "survival of the fittest" concept. And, also, once said mental evolution starts, awkward, almost unexplainable phenomena such as self-awareness are birthed into existence. We, unlike all of the other animals, have this trait.

Now, it has been observed that other animals exhibit very low levels of said trait through use of the "mirror test." Some of these animals included various primates, elephants, dolphins, and pigs, among a few others. This level was low, however, and is still being debated the significance of such by some. Our level, as humans, is unlike anything else on this planet. We've evolved into a creature that has the uncanny ability to question its surroundings instead of merely taking them in and reacting. In doing so, we place meaning. This "meaning," though, is ironically enough meaningless. Because, even though we are capable of such things, it does not mean that their existence is of any importance. In gaining such ability to question and place meaning, we've decided to formulate a concept called "truth," and what an interesting concept it is.

Not only have we evolved into creatures so audacious enough to believe that we can place objective meanings on unknowable things, but we have let such evolutionary dominance fool us into believing we can know what is true and what is untrue. Some of us are even foolish enough to believe that we can know how the universe was created, how absurd! We've created concepts of "God" and "afterlife" and "reincarnation" and other gross forms of bullshit that are all examples of our tendency to believe that we can know what is the "truth."

That which one believes is "truth" is most likely not so. The only truth is that which is, put simply. The true nature is that which acts with no accordance or direction, but simply acts without acting. Therefore, the only "truth" is nature itself. This is because most of what humans regard as "truth" is merely an abstracted concept with regards to another abstracted question or such. Therefore, abstraction is the first stepping stone in the path towards living unnatural - a lifestyle that yields consequences that I'll not discuss here as to avoid even more lengthening. Such abstraction involves the act of seeing something in a skewed sort of way; in a way where one is not seeing something as it is, but in a way as one has made themself believe. And once one starts living within and reacting to a world that they have abstracted, they consequently live within an unnatural world of abstracted false and they themselves become unnatural beings.

In conclusion, then, when a person places such a word onto something's natural behavior, they are ceasing to see such behavior as it is, but as they have made it; their view has been abstracted. To place such a label is to assume a position of knowing and it is also to place a label in such a way to figuratively "own" that creature's actions because one has placed such label in a place where this person can now understand said creature's actions - or so they think, because, as I've went over, said understanding is only an abstraction conjured to fill the void of non-understandance (not a word? I don't care). Therefore, said anthropomorphic language instills within me a sense humor. It is there because it is, and I have no reason for it.
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Can I have some of your adderal please?

Also, bob... down the path of the unnatural? if a wasp creates a nest, or a chimp uses a tool, is that nest or that tool unnatural?

We evolved just like the chimp and the wasp, to use tools, including electronics, mechanics, language, etc. Whatever a human does is, by absolute natural law, natural. That doesn't mean we can't hurt the environment or do stupid things, but we and everything we do is inharently natural.

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