reasonable DMT price

No doubt...that's some bullshit comin from a "friend".
Look into doing a tek yourself...or help someone else with the means do it if your current living situation doesn't permit for it.

 

Yes, high pH is bad to smoke. But not just because it is high pH. It is chemistry. Vaporizing rather than smoking helps, just as it does with the smoking of ignited plant materials (herbs). Don't fool yourself, smoking anything is bad for the lungs, there's no getting around it. If you must smoke but cannot psychologically deal with the risk, your safest smoke is probably mullein and/or cannabis.

You won't be able to smoke or vape lye, so no worries about burning your lungs as if you were in WWI trenches. But, the entire concept of lazy kitchen chemistry JUST TO MAKE A BUCK PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF! Especially when dealing with such a powerful and frankly, spiritual, entheogen. It is very important to take one's time and do two decantations, with the second one being extremely precise. Who's more likely to do this? The dealer wanting to make quick turnover/money or the individual seeker wanting to extract a pure/clean product that they will take directly into their own bodies?

The lazy path which yields dirty product and quick $ is just wrong and i have seen some UGLY products being offered at festivals. i get so angry i pull out my fishscale white crystals and tell the dealer what they have is garbage, NOT DMT, then i give a FREE sample (50-250 mg) to the potential purchaser so they will avoid the bullshit.

The whiter the spice crystals, the more pure the product, that is the more likely it is just the freebase form of N,N, Dimethyltryptamine. When other colors appear, such as yellow, orange, brown (not good) or red it is often indicative of other plant alkaloids being left behind (so-called full spectrum spice) or messy/lazy extraction procedures. i have had some FANTASTIC experiences with yellow spice that i extracted myself but did not bother to recrystallize, so off-white does not necessarily mean dirty.

You see, it's kinda complex - best to extract your own, then you'll know if you sucked up some oils, an emulsion layer or just plain old dropped it all onto the dirt of your kitchen floor. Knowing your product can yield confidence. FEAR comes with the DMT territory. It's nice to just fear your own inner demons and the power of the spice rather than fear that what you have put into your pipe is not clean or not really DMT.

So, although color is not necessarily indicative i can tell you this much: Smell the product. If you smell anything nasty or solvent-like, it's no good. But, if you get a vague, light floral scent, it is ready for use.

So, even though i said it's not my place to judge, i will say if you cannot extract it, please be careful about buying DMT and please don't sell DMT. Check the thread on first time extractions advice - i posted a tek that will give you your own spice within just a few days. Also, if you buy nasty looking spice, check the thread i started called Spicey Cat recommends re-X for a simple cleanup/recrystallization procedure.

Peace

Spicey Cat
-Meow!

 

Lol I live with my mother....

 

A good price for DMT is all your faith and devotion for and only to the magic Space Elfs that control your thoughts

 

I've smoked white N,N that mostly just gave me a headache...just sayin.

 

wow smitty I love the white, much smoother taste and experience. extracted dmt costs the person who extracts it ~10$/gram if your getting it from our south american friends. that cost buying 3/4 pound of MHRB . if you bought kilo's like commercial sellers do the price they are making per gram is retarded.

 

Well, typically yes.
I was just saying that I have smoked white that sucked before.

 

thanks for all the helpful advice. i'm quite sure that the person i am getting it from smokes it themself...and he/she has been extracting it for a long time, perfecting the procedure. so i trust the quality (as much as i can without really knowing). i will be sure to smell it like you say, and maybe do a clean up if i feel necessary (i don't think it will come to that)

about the specific quote above. i still don't understand why. i get that you want clean dmt, and that smoking anything is harmful to the lungs, but if you can't smoke NaOH, how is high pH DMT more harmful to smoke than lower (more neutral) pH DMT? i guess it's probably volatile (evaporates at room temp, or in this case at the temp you are smoking) so it can still get in the lungs?

 

Well, I know that if the DMT has some excess NaOH it can cause some major irritation in the throat, mouth, lips, etc.... So I believe she is saying that if you remove any of the NaOH that wasn't used by the DMT salt you want to remove them from said product.

 

^^^pretty standard procedure i presume?

 

i payed 180 for 2 g's..

 

hi porkstock,

i'm no chemist, just someone who reads everything. My answer was general, not specific.

Also, the white, powder form of N, N, DMT is known as the free base form. Feel it, rub a bit between your fingers - feel that waxy/slippery feeling - assuming its not plant oils, it is the basic nature (high pH) of the free base DMT. That's all.

It takes really messy kitchen chemistry to bring lye across but it can happen during the extraction and it can also happen just through dirty, messy procedures, not cleaning glass, etc. No, it won't vaporize and enter your lungs, but frankly, i don't want it touching my mouth, my skin or my pipe and also, when i smoke N, N DMT, that really is all i want in my pipe, you know what i mean. Even if lye won't vape, i don't want it making my chemistry dirty.

Enough ranting.

Spicey Cat
-Meow!

 

If it was real, pure, clean N, N, DMT, i honestly suspect something else induced your headache. Perhaps something like:

Bad body position while in trance (neck/shoulders).
Dehydration
Hunger/hypoglycemia
Psychological issues surfacing that are difficult to manage

i honestly don't know but i know that the few times i've gotten a headache after using clean DMT (white) it was distinctly because i had "unfinished business in hyperspace," needed to eat some fruit and/or drink some water. Solved by going back in, eating and/or drinking . . .

Peace & Love,
Spicey Cat
Brrrrp!