Ok..is abstinence something that is not ruled out. I don't know. If that is a rule then would you be alright with it. Now could you live with that for the rest of your life. Reminds me of lepers.....don't touch. Fear is a factor, understandable. Education is a weapon.
Okay, well I'm not going to do this. But I have to say this... My mother dated a guy with HIV for 2 years. And she didn't know he had HIV until him and her broke up... THey had unprotected sex too. Protected sex wasn't too hot back in the day. She is clean, and I'm HIV free... And actually, people tend to have scabs and cuts on their head. You specially find this out when you wash their hair. Also, in beauty school you'd have to give people MAni's and Pedi's. Sometimes people would bleed. We'd also give people facials, and wax... Which can draw blood. It's just a part of the industry. I think a lot of the problem is how taboo HIV and AIDs is, and how scary it can be... I know how he got it, and he does take care of him self. So it's not a problem. But the looks of it, no one has it. Nor has anyone dated someone with HIV/AIDs.
To revise my earlier opinion, I didn't mean to sound judgemental because someone got HIV, and it shouldn't ruin their life, but.... you've got to think realistically. Do you really love them enough to deal with condoms for life, and possibly getting HIV at some point, and having to live with that? If you don't think it's a forever kind of relationship, I don't think it's really worth it. Earliler with my comment about sharing pipes and such, I wasen't fearmongering, just saying, you CAN catch HIV if you both even have a small cut in your mouth, even so small you can't feel or see it, and there's just no reason to take that risk. Saying everything has a risk is true, but that just means you should be even more careful about everything, not take needless, life changing risks when there's simple solutions. If I where HIV positive, I'd voluntarially smoke on my own.. for example. Maybe I'm too much of the "greater good" type.... I realize you can't expect everyone to make those sacrafices, but it would be a much nicer would if they would.
In massage school the number one rule is if its an open sore, bleeding, or you don't know what the hell it is you stay away from it to prevent the risk of contracting anything. This is what my mother's and sister's beauty school taught as well. And HIV is a very smart virus, it lays dormant in you're brain knowing that your body can't do anything about it. But some to consider, maybe the guy your mother dated didn't have HIV the test has a 3% chance at a false negative. Or your mother's body and your body could have fought off the virus and may be immune to it (this is very rare, but does happen.) You're very lucky if your body has built up an immunity to the virus. But I still think you should try to be careful. If he makes you happy then he does, I just hope you'll be safe. Just as you would with anyone else.
Well, with "anyone else" she wouldn't have to worry about contracting a deadly virus through open sores. My advice is up that safety, instead of building a fence around your body, build a concrete wall.
No the HIV virus can only be contracted through breast milk, blood, seamen, and vaginal fluids. But if the person has a cut in their mouth and the other person with HIV has one they may get the virus.
I don't know if I could do it, but I respect you for taking him into consideration, treating him as a person, and being informed. Edit: I've only had one experience with HIV. And that is my uncle, whose temperament was always out of sync with the rest of the family, who's gay and a recluse. I remember clearly when he came to town for my grandparents' 50 year marriage anniversary. We were all getting ready for the ceremony and I had to borrow his razor to shave. I remember him being very careful to change the blade of the razor in the bathroom before I used it. It was a bonding experience for me. At first, even though I knew he had HIV, I didn't realize why he had been so circumspect. It was only later that it sunk in.
Thank you, I'm really glad someone gets it. People have too many predicuses and hang ups. Just because it's unconventional doesn't mean it's wrong. And if I were to fall in love with this guy and get married. (which I highly doubt, highly) I would have thought twice about the circumstances. If I truely loved the guy, I wouldn't care about using a condom everytime, If he truely loved me he wouldn't care. Instead of having my our children we'd adopt. People don't stop leading normal lives because they get infected. They just lead more cautious ones.
Uhh, what? I don't think you really took the time to actually read the whole thread. I do have to say I find it kinda strange that this is a "hippie" forum, and it's okay to talk about drugs and the extremes of them. But talking about dating someone with HIV is just down right stupid, wrong, and naive. I am not a hippie myself, but don't they believe in "free love" and all that kinda junk? Thanks.
If you are prepared to take precautions, and you like this man enough then I say all the more reason to go for it. HIV is a dreadful disease, but he is only human and as long as it is carefully acknowledged there's no reason to treat him as anything less. Be safe though, get checks and get educated.
Dating someone with HIV is the worse possible idea anyone could have. Sounds harsh, but it's true. Being friends is one thing, but being intimate is something entirely different, and you have to ask yourself....do you really want to risk getting a disease over a guy/girl that you may not even date long, or what if they die early on? Then you're left with a disease that you can't get rid of. Think before you act.
And if the relationship that grows Between you two only last for a short while... And you become HIV position then what. Being a hippie has nothing to do with common sense and if you think precautions are your best bet instead of just dating someone that's not HIV positive, then go to town. And anyone that says be free and open is a complete moron. Being free and open is not to be to let your body or yourself go through harm or sickness, and for someone on here to encourage it... Their not very bright